Senator Pádraig Ó Céidigh wants to create public body to review public bodies

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Pádraig Ó Céidigh wants to create Public body to review Public bodies every 5-7 years to see if they were operating well or were needed at all.

Public Bodies Review Agency Bill 2016

its very long bill I wonder who wrote it https://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2016/10516/B10516S.pdf

from the Explanatory memo https://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2016/10516/B10516s-memo.pdf
Introduction There are in the region of 250 public bodies in existence, each of which was established by, or under, statute. Our legislature does not routinely review the operation and effectiveness of legislation following its enactment. As a consequence, once a public body has been established under legislation, little or no consideration is given 10 or 20 years later as to whether the remit of that public body is as valid today as it was on the day its founding legislation was enacted, or whether the public body needs a fresh remit and guidance on a new direction, or indeed whether the organisation has served its purpose and needs to be either merged or dissolved. While public bodies rightly differ in very many respects from private sector businesses, there is much that the public sector can learn from the experiences of the private sector. To take just one example of this, businesses which do not innovate and evolve eventually die. Public bodies are not at risk of overtly failing in this way as the prevailing culture within the public service does not allow this to occur. There is a need to imbue the public sector with a culture of dynamism and self-improvement. The proposals contained in this Bill are just one step along that journey for the public sector. Purpose of the Bill

The purpose of this Bill is to establish an organisation which will be charged with reviewing within seven yearly intervals, the effectiveness of public bodies with a view to ensuring that their statutory remit remains of relevance and that each public body continues to discharge its functions in the most effective way possible, delivering tangible benefits for Irish society
debated this week https://www.kildarestreet.com/sendebates/?id=2016-12-07a.298

although POC got to speak to the minister directly about the bill, the gov rejected it because they said it would be very difficult for one agency to review the work of 250 varying agencies and that the department and revelant committees should remain the people overseeing the public bodies.

after all that effort he asked for the bill to be withdrawn but it needed to be vote down, so it was.

one of the examples he gave in the memo was the Texas, Sunset Advisory Commission
Under the Act, every state agency (excluding universities, courts, and agencies mandated under the Texas Constitution) has a specific date on which it will automatically be abolished, unless the Legislature passes specific legislation continuing the agency's existence.

This issue came into play during the 2009 Legislative session, when the session adjourned without the Legislature providing for the continued existence of several agencies (among them the Texas Department of Transportation, the state's largest), thus requiring the Governor to call a special session.
great example of US rightwing self-destructiveness, is this what POC brings to the Seanad, is what he bring to the Future of Water Committee.


although all this body would do would to make recommendations to the the Minister to take up or not.
 
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Like a HIQA only for the public bodies?
 

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Well will solve the quango problem by creating another!
 

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Not convinced that a review quango is needed. However the idea of review does have merit run by each department on say every 7 years.
 

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No
I think the Public Accounts Committee should be the politburo when it comes to the existence of quangos.

Cost, rationale and submission for continuance or abolition should go through that committee every seven years at least.
 

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Pádraig Ó Céidigh wants to create Public body to review Public bodies every 5-7 years to see if they were operating well or were needed at all.

Public Bodies Review Agency Bill 2016

its very long bill I wonder who wrote it https://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2016/10516/B10516S.pdf

from the Explanatory memo https://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bills28/bills/2016/10516/B10516s-memo.pdf

debated this week https://www.kildarestreet.com/sendebates/?id=2016-12-07a.298

although POC got to speak to the minister directly about the bill, the gov rejected it because they said it would be very difficult for one agency to review the work of 250 varying agencies and that the department and revelant committees should remain the people overseeing the public bodies.

after all that effort he asked for the bill to be withdrawn but it needed to be vote down, so it was.

one of the examples he gave in the memo was the Texas, Sunset Advisory Commission

great example of US rightwing self-destructiveness, is this what POC brings to the Seanad, is what he bring to the Future of Water Committee
Another quango, great.

The TDs will kick each other to death to get their son or daughter into a nice cushty €120pa number.

Sweeeet :)
 

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Howlin was appointed by Giimiemore to be a government minister to look into this.

He ordered sn expensive new toilet and spent a full term ptoducing nothing but urine.

Effectively the Irish Looper party rubberstamped Bertie Ahern's quango madness.

We need to cut out 70% of the quangos and replace them with nothing.

Starting with PRAVDA-rte and the hated Levy for the maintenance for the Montrose Millionaires.
 

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Howlin was appointed by Giimiemore to be a government minister to look into this.

He ordered sn expensive new toilet and spent a full term ptoducing nothing but urine.

Effectively the Irish Looper party rubberstamped Bertie Ahern's quango madness.

We need to cut out 70% of the quangos and replace them with nothing.
were't we depending on Fine Gael to do that, hasn't happened to the degree they promised.
 

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Not convinced that a review quango is needed. However the idea of review does have merit run by each department on say every 7 years.
The review would need to be independent. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
 

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were't we depending on Fine Gael to do that, hasn't happened to the degree they promised.
the same FG, whose head, Enda Kenny elected Padraig to the Seanad.
And nowvia Padraig there's an application for yet another QUANGO. Perhaps Angela Kerins, Paul Kiely, Bertie Ahern and Frank Flannery have some free time to take a seat. FG look after those who look after them ...... see election of Billy Lawless (Chicago) to Seanad. He previously employed Enda's daughter stateside.

Padraig previously owned Aer Arann.

.......the Government wasted more than €100m on PSO subsidies, primarily to Aer Arann.
Ryanair’s director of legal affairs Jim Callaghan said: “For years, Ryanair has been a vocal critic of the Department for Transport’s waste of taxpayer funds in the area of PSOs and this is just the latest example. The report of the Comptroller and Auditor General yesterday highlights the extreme waste in the Government’s spending generally and PSO subsidies are a clear example of this. The Taoiseach, Brian Cowen, yesterday confirmed that the Government would no longer tolerate this kind of waste.”

Mr Callaghan said Ryanair offered to serve this route at a lower cost than Aer Arann and with three times the capacity, and yet the department turned this down.

“There clearly should have been a further tender under EU rules and this is why Ryanair has been forced to apply for a judicial review in the High Court. Ryanair today re-issued its offer to the department to serve the Dublin to Knock route for a lower cost, with lower fares and triple the capacity,” he said.
Ryanair critical of Aer Arann subsidies | Irish Examiner
 

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It seems like a good idea, but I wonder if significantly expanding the Comptroller and Auditor General's office would do the job just as well.
 

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No
Leo Varadkar spent a lot of time urging a bonfire of the quangos between 2007 and 2011 and made a lot of political mileage out of filing questions in the Dail to Ministers on appointments and quangos.

Gone very quiet on the subject since getting into a cabinet post.
 

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the same FG, whose head, Enda Kenny elected Padraig to the Seanad.
And nowvia Padraig there's an application for yet another QUANGO. Perhaps Angela Kerins, Paul Kiely, Bertie Ahern and Frank Flannery have some free time to take a seat. FG look after those who look after them ...... see election of Billy Lawless (Chicago) to Seanad. He previously employed Enda's daughter stateside.

Padraig previously owned Aer Arann.





Ryanair critical of Aer Arann subsidies | Irish Examiner
O'Ceidigh is your classic Irish business spoofer.
Makes a huge living (Seanad, board seats, speaking circuit) off spinning he was a super successful businessman but the truth is he was anything but.

Lecturing people on entrepreneurship when his flagship, Aer Arran was an mitigated failure and bled the taxpayer of tens of millions.
 

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is that not already the case to an extent, based on C & AG reports
One of Fine Gael's election promises for 2011 was an enhanced role for the Public Accounts Committee. I've yet to see any indication that they have done anything about that undertaking.
 

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Lumpy's suggestion that it be a job for the PAC is a good one.
Add in the purview of the C&AG and there's really little need for it. As someone in the HSE commented to me, a report is the foundation for the next report! :D
 


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