It doesn't mean he's wrong. Lots of us here agree with him on this.Boylan has a bee in his bonnet about the church.
It doesn't mean he's wrong. Lots of us here agree with him on this.Boylan has a bee in his bonnet about the church.
But this is the problem. When it comes to paying bills, the vatican says it's a local matter.
When it comes to local decisions, it's a vatican matter.
Taxpayers' money should not have this kind of carry on.
What was the benefit to Saint Rhona of staying silent on the nuns is the question?It doesn't mean he's wrong. Lots of us here agree with him on this.
Maybe but I also suspect medical politics at work. No obvious reason (other than our taxes) why Holles street could not be moved to Tallaght or Blanchardstown but I suspect there are better doctors in Vincents.Boylan has a bee in his bonnet about the church.
He also said abortion is going very well, and a few babies have been saved bc the mummies had time to think about it.Peter Boylan was on Marian early. He says the nuns own the land and no catholic hospital in the world allows abortions, sterilisation etc. Apparently the nuns are waiting for the Vatican to decide before they can divest themselves.
Ergo the state should not spend a penny until we know it’s free of church laws.
Interesting how he came to be a spokesperson on abortion etc. Seems to still not be speaking to Rhona. He said she got it wrong on the nuns.
Public hospitals have €650million in revenue from private patients. One would assume that in return for that €650million, those public hospitals provide a service, ie. beds, access to operating theaters, etc. So if the 650 goes, there are more beds etc available for public patients.The reality is that we have a public service model that's hoiking the costs onto the private sector with privately insured patients contributing €650M to the public system.
If you want to move to a pure public system you'll have to replace that €650m as well as coming up with more money to treat patients who no longer have access to private care.
And then you'll have to deal with the loss of public staff as the better pay and conditions in private sector lures them away.
Begrudgery is never a good starting point for building public policy.
Sort of. Those private patients also pay for public services so the €650m will have to come from taxes which are mainly paid by the people who also pay for private insurance.Public hospitals have €650million in revenue from private patients. One would assume that in return for that €650million, those public hospitals provide a service, ie. beds, access to operating theaters, etc. So if the 650 goes, there are more beds etc available for public patients.
or, am I misunderstanding that?
true - but their taxes would cover the bed for 2 years time, not for today. ie. they get to skip the queue for that extra paymentSort of. Those private patients also pay for public services so the €650m will have to come from taxes which are mainly paid by the people who also pay for private insurance.
What Wombat said. And remember that when someone elects to use their PHI they no longer get any benefit from their PRSI contributions; their insurance must pay the entire cost. In the past they only had to pay the difference between the public and private costs.Public hospitals have €650million in revenue from private patients. One would assume that in return for that €650million, those public hospitals provide a service, ie. beds, access to operating theaters, etc. So if the 650 goes, there are more beds etc available for public patients.
or, am I misunderstanding that?
Schools, too.Back to basics - we paid for all the nuns' hospitals with our ha'pence, not rome.
Oh if only the last bit were true. Taxpayers are funding private consulting rooms for medical consultants in our new hospital.Back to basics - we paid for all the nuns' hospitals with our ha'pence, not rome.
So why should they not give them back? We can be grateful that they ran them for x years, but the land and facilities were always morally "ours".
Unlike a private hospital paid for by investors from day 1.
I think the problem is that if private insurance is abolished, the deficit will be made up from taxes.true - but their taxes would cover the bed for 2 years time, not for today. ie. they get to skip the queue for that extra payment
The more cynical amongst us would conclude Saint Rhonas silence on the nuns was the price she was prepared to pay for favourible access for private business interests.Very unlikely then that the consultants will be being charged for the use of facilities within the hospital. Which means there may also be questions around whether patients going private with a consultant would go to the head of the queue for x rays and MRI scans.
One would have to be very cynical to assume anything like that. I agree it is hugely likely to be the case.The more cynical amongst us would conclude Saint Rhonas silence on the nuns was the price she was prepared to pay for favourible access for private business interests.
Don't forget that some of that tax money will be money that has been saved by the state when it no longer has to provide tax relief on private health insurance.I think the problem is that if private insurance is abolished, the deficit will be made up from taxes.