SF in Kerry: The Ferris legacy and who can bring the party forward?

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Martin Ferris is the face of SF in Kerry, when he was released from prison in the mid 90s SF in Kerry was a joke with candidates getting a few hundred votes in general elections. Since then Ferris got elected as a councillor and then to the Dail. The party now also has a number of councillors and a Dail seat is almost considered a certainty.

SF in Kerry is the Ferris family, however who is best placed now to take over from Ferris. It seems that his daughter Toireasa is a certainty, however this has caused some irritation in particular with members in the north kerry area if rumours are to be believed. The fact that she is seen as the “chosen one” is not going down well and is considered to be the formation of an FF style dynasty. Something Ferris and his colleagues have always disliked.

Will this tear the party apart or will a candidate like councillor Pa Daly be more suitable? Ferris also had a strong personal vote, it will be interesting to see can SF hold on to hardcore votes and attract new voters who avoided the party in the past over the PIRA past of Ferris.
 
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I would have thought that it is almost a certainty that Toiréasa Ferris will be the candidate. The fact that she had such a prominent role at the Ard Fheis over the weekend where she was given a platform to make numerous speeches, including the warm up for Adams himself, makes it seem that she's the chosen one. She could be a future leader of the party. Watch out Mary Lou!
 

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I would have thought that it is almost a certainty that Toiréasa Ferris will be the candidate. The fact that she had such a prominent role at the Ard Fheis over the weekend where she was given a platform to make numerous speeches, including the warm up for Adams himself, makes it seem that she's the chosen one. She could be a future leader of the party. Watch out Mary Lou!
It has taken her quite some time to recover from the embarrassment of 2006 - back then it looked as if she was going to have a speedy rise to the top - akin to Michelle O'Neill in NI in the past few years - then there was that TV interview.
 

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Who would vote for the offspring of a person who welcomed Garda killers. Who voted for him? Do you reckon they are all democrats and love the GFA and all that.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

I really thought Kerry people had more sense, but then they did vote the Healy Raes in so nothing will surprise me anymore.
 

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It has taken her quite some time to recover from the embarrassment of 2006 - back then it looked as if she was going to have a speedy rise to the top - akin to Michelle O'Neill in NI in the past few years - then there was that TV interview.
Gawd! Ye can't be up to the Shinners.

Now they're recovering from interviews...Jeez
 

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It has taken her quite some time to recover from the embarrassment of 2006 - back then it looked as if she was going to have a speedy rise to the top - akin to Michelle O'Neill in NI in the past few years - then there was that TV interview.
Toireasa Ferris is also remembered for a frank and forensic description of what SF was doing wrong after the 'disappointing' General Election of 2007, when SF were tipped to make gains but actually ended up going from 5 to 4 seats. It might please you to focus on a bad interview, but her article was one of the contributions that turned SF around. No airhead, she. https://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/sinn-fein-simply-means-nothing-to-the-bulk-of-people-in-the-south/
 

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An SF seat is no certainty in Kerry - they only won 12% the last time, with Ferris' vote staying almost identical to what he had in the old Kerry Nth (when it amounted to 20% or so there). Trying to establish a dynasty is of course very much in the style of Kerry politics (Healy Rae, Spring, Griffin etc) but it may not necessarily pull it off for SF.
 

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How the Senior Provies are remembered in the long term will depend if everything goes smoothly from here on in....If that happens they will be remembered as heroes, if the UK State goes back on it's word to the extent of having things blown up again they will be remembered as traitors.
 

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Martin Ferris is the face of SF in Kerry, when he was released from prison in the mid 90s SF in Kerry was a joke with candidates getting a few hundred votes in general elections. Since then Ferris got elected as a councillor and then to the Dail. The party now also has a number of councillors and a Dail seat is almost considered a certainty.

SF in Kerry is the Ferris family, however who is best placed now to take over from Ferris. It seems that his daughter Toireasa is a certainty, however this has caused some irritation in particular with members in the north kerry area if rumours are to be believed. The fact that she is seen as the “chosen one” is not going down well and is considered to be the formation of an FF style dynasty. Something Ferris and his colleagues have always disliked.

Will this tear the party apart or will a candidate like councillor Pa Daly be more suitable? Ferris also had a strong personal vote, it will be interesting to see can SF hold on to hardcore votes and attract new voters who avoided the party in the past over the PIRA past of Ferris.
a shinner basher worried for the shinners, one couldnt make it up
 

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An SF seat is no certainty in Kerry - they only won 12% the last time, with Ferris' vote staying almost identical to what he had in the old Kerry Nth (when it amounted to 20% or so there). Trying to establish a dynasty is of course very much in the style of Kerry politics (Healy Rae, Spring, Griffin etc) but it may not necessarily pull it off for SF.
The have a firm support base I would expect her to grow that.
 

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I just loved the bit in the Irish Times article where it said that Toireasa is expected to be one of a number of candidates to seek the nomination.........the hospital would want to have a doctor with experience of knee-cappings on call if that is the case.
 

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An SF seat is no certainty in Kerry - they only won 12% the last time, with Ferris' vote staying almost identical to what he had in the old Kerry Nth (when it amounted to 20% or so there). Trying to establish a dynasty is of course very much in the style of Kerry politics (Healy Rae, Spring, Griffin etc) but it may not necessarily pull it off for SF.
The Labour vote in Tralee is effectively gone now and only has Ferris as a likely Town TD unless Jim Finucane could pull off a miracle.
 

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I just loved the bit in the Irish Times article where it said that Toireasa is expected to be one of a number of candidates to seek the nomination.........the hospital would want to have a doctor with experience of knee-cappings if that is the case.
Do you really believe such rubbish?
 

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Toireasa Ferris is also remembered for a frank and forensic description of what SF was doing wrong after the 'disappointing' General Election of 2007, when SF were tipped to make gains but actually ended up going from 5 to 4 seats. It might please you to focus on a bad interview, but her article was one of the contributions that turned SF around. No airhead, she. https://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/sinn-fein-simply-means-nothing-to-the-bulk-of-people-in-the-south/
She certainly is no airhead but the article had nothing to do with the SF turnaround .

It was the recession .
 

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I just loved the bit in the Irish Times article where it said that Toireasa is expected to be one of a number of candidates to seek the nomination.........the hospital would want to have a doctor with experience of knee-cappings on call if that is the case.
The father can resume his job as a taxi driver, prison visits a speciality.
 

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Toireasa Ferris is also remembered for a frank and forensic description of what SF was doing wrong after the 'disappointing' General Election of 2007, when SF were tipped to make gains but actually ended up going from 5 to 4 seats. It might please you to focus on a bad interview, but her article was one of the contributions that turned SF around. No airhead, she. https://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/sinn-fein-simply-means-nothing-to-the-bulk-of-people-in-the-south/
Ms Ferris is no airhead but her article had nothing to do with the SF turnaround as you put it. It was the recession , pure and simple .
 


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