SF - the Irish manifestation of Brexit/Trumpism?

Galloglass

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Fianna Gael,the Irish manifestation of Brexit/Trumpism?

Fixed that for you.

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midlander12

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yep and maybe their own tv station in the near future.
That'll be fun viewing. One can imagine - a nice 'diverse' Muslim call to prayer at 6 instead of the Angelus, followed by an hour of International (i.e. Palestinian and Egyptian) News and then Organic Cookery Hour with Eoin and Lynn. And finally, needless to say, a Tweet at Bedtime with You Know Who and his teddy bear. His trampoline could feature in a republican version of Operation Transformation (though I suppose nudity would be completely verboten).
 

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We are actually quite lucky here in Ireland compared to other nations in that we have Parties like SF, PBP/AAA, SD etc to soak up the dissaffected vote; rather than see that sentiment flow into a pool of right wing extremism. That's the main reason why we do not have a UKIP, Le pen or Trumpesque style political force in the state. Unless of course you include the Unionist parties up North.

More directly to address your specific question, the answer is a straight forward No. SF are nationalists/Irish republicans yes but so too is Fianna Fail and Fine Gael apparently. The Shinners are certainly not homophobic or racist with the party including a Kenyian councillor and openly Gay Senator. On Women's rights and equality, very few other parties can hold a candle to them. But thanks for your question, very interesting.
Nice Sinn Fein have a token Kenyan and gay chappie. Are they on the Army Council? Thought not. Sinn Fein show the Irish are no smarter than anyone else.

nah, SF are well part of the establishment now
Sinn Fein want power - to go with their riches.



SF like Trump have no principles.
Can't argue that one.

Can you imagine

Brexit
Trumpty
SF IRA / AAA in Government

Thank God its not a possibility.
It was impossible Trump would get elected - if Hitler would take over Germany. But God works in mysterious ways.


Truth.ie is a disso supporter. Hence his hatred for SF.
But his post had nothing to do with the "dissos". That's a real "any taig will do" line you take.

PBP/AAA will never support right wing extremists like SF.
PBP/AAA are opportunists. Any bandwagon to jump on, no solutions. Just like Sinn Fein. My bet is Sinn Fein wil muscle them out in the South - in the North, the services of the heavies might be needed.

Uh PBP support the Muslim Brotherhood.
Follow the money

Yes,because as everyone knows Northern Nationalists have only 2 options: Collaborate with the British or go back to war.
What a spastic.
But you don't rim Gerry Adams' backsodie so your opinoon does not count.
A party that preys on vulnerable people, promising them completely unattainable results, delivering ************************ all, and blaming someone else for their failures.

Just look at west Belfast. The people there 30 years ago were condemned to live in the worst cess pit in the uk..
which is why many in West Belfast lost the faith and voted for the Trot

By virtue of history, or perhaps a slant of character, our people are as sensible as a pair of old boots..
Mick Lowry, the Healy Raes and the ghost of Charlie Haughey will say a novena for you

They're only in it for the money.
Money can't buy you love, but it can sure buy you Sinn Fein

30 years ago WB voters had no hope of electing anyone to office, now they have six MLAs in the Northern Dail.
West Belfast had elected officials 30 years ago, when Republicans would not use the word Dail, least of all to refer to Stormont

oh don't you know

SF are the biggest party in ireland

behind FF in the last election ffs
Sinn Fein are the richest party in these islands. A pity they were not around to hussle over the price Judas charged

The Trumplike field is open to SF in many ways but they seriously lack two qualities.

One is Trump's fearlessness in tackling the media problem. They mention the issue once in a blue moon.

The other is a lack of general voracious intellectual curiosity. The intensity they bring to bear on the national issue is sorely missing in all sorts of other departments.
Provo republicanism was always anti intellectual and many of its old guard leaders never even finished school. They ccannot have the "independence" of Trump as they are a rigidly controlled "movement"

Unemployment figures have collapsed because they've all switched to Disability Allowance (which pays more and does not require signing on).More "disabled" people than Aleppo.
Sinn Fein the Strokers' Party

Well played. You do know you're responding to a dissident supporter? As usual not a clue of anything beyond your own prejudices. :)
Well done. Only those who rim Adams can express. That goes for those who voted for Eamonn McCann and the other Trot
 

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Nice Sinn Fein have a token Kenyan and gay chappie. Are they on the Army Council? Thought not. Sinn Fein show the Irish are no smarter than anyone else.

Sinn Fein want power - to go with their riches.



Can't argue that one.

It was impossible Trump would get elected - if Hitler would take over Germany. But God works in mysterious ways.


But his post had nothing to do with the "dissos". That's a real "any taig will do" line you take.

PBP/AAA are opportunists. Any bandwagon to jump on, no solutions. Just like Sinn Fein. My bet is Sinn Fein wil muscle them out in the South - in the North, the services of the heavies might be needed.

Follow the money

But you don't rim Gerry Adams' backsodie so your opinoon does not count.
which is why many in West Belfast lost the faith and voted for the Trot

Mick Lowry, the Healy Raes and the ghost of Charlie Haughey will say a novena for you

Money can't buy you love, but it can sure buy you Sinn Fein

West Belfast had elected officials 30 years ago, when Republicans would not use the word Dail, least of all to refer to Stormont

Sinn Fein are the richest party in these islands. A pity they were not around to hussle over the price Judas charged

Provo republicanism was always anti intellectual and many of its old guard leaders never even finished school. They ccannot have the "independence" of Trump as they are a rigidly controlled "movement"

Sinn Fein the Strokers' Party

Well done. Only those who rim Adams can express. That goes for those who voted for Eamonn McCann and the other Trot
Your string of replies here have demonstrated, that not only are you clueless about northern nationalists (and Ireland in general), you are totally clueless about the motivations of 90% of the posters you have replied to. Keep up the good work...
 

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Not allowed to start threads, so will throw this in here, example of shinners and FF joining forces in latest example of nimbyism in Dublin :Ranelagh residents oppose council playground plan
Without getting into the detail - NIMBYism should be thwarted at every possible opportunity. Is this the right place for the playground? - I don't know, but it's likely that it's a piece of land that the council have in their possession and that would assist the decision on grounds of cost.

There are known issues of anti-social behaviour associated with playgrounds throughout dublin, but I'm not sure if Ranelagh would be one of those areas either.

Likely this is just "get my name in the press" stuff. That said, the residents may have real and valid concerns, so it's impossible to draw a definitive conclusion on that article alone. NIMBYism is not the preserve of FF and SF alone, by any means. As the attached amply demonstrates:

Incinerator vow - Why not your backyard Mr McDowell? - Irish Examiner - 20-04-07

Protest against Dublin Bay incinerator

Ringsend sewage plant expansion opposed

You'll find "labour" in that mix as well, cricket.
 


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