SF up, FG down in latest poll



Wascurito

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Well since leo isn't going away the impact is likely to continue.
This poll is more substantive than previous ones because it shows a fall in support for FG and a fall in Varadkar's approval rating. Other polls didn't do that. But it's still just one poll. So, I think you're jumping a little too quickly on the Leo factor.
 

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FF support much higher than poll says. Fake news.
PRAVDA have been rehabilitating FFailures like Mammy O'Rourke, and HanaFFinished for years. And it is not working.
 

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LV was damaged goods after he stood by Frances ISIS Fitzgerald, even though she was found to be specatacularly inept.

He should have sacked her sooner.
 

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Brendan who or Labor what?
Even Angry Alan would be better than Brendan Who at this stage. Labour really needs to dump the coronated "leader" or SF and FF will destroy it.
 

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FF support much higher than poll says. Fake news.
Perhaps people think that Mary Lou is the leader of FF and they can't distinguish Captain Slaphead of the FF Titanic from Naughten? :) FF has become more FG than FG itself.
 

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Ireland is joining the populist revolt.

Isn't this positive?
On the contrary, Ireland is abandoning the populist party of FF.
 

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Even Angry Alan would be better than Brendan Who at this stage. Labour really needs to dump the coronated "leader" or SF and FF will destroy it.
But that would require imagination and energy and I think labor are just waiting for things to be the way they used be
 

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On the contrary, Ireland is abandoning the populist party of FF.
That's populist in the let's suck at the boss's teat sense. The nee populism is about rejecting the current model.

FF could never do that. The shinners probably can. Or at least are more likely.
 

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Looks like SF will be the kingmakers (that's if a republican party can be kingmakers......ethically)
I wouldn't be too worried about the ethics angle. SF regularly wrestle with their consciences....and win.
 

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Poll was over Monday and Tuesday of this week so it may not have captured the real impact of the Naughten/FG fiasco. MoE is +/- 2.8% so impact on FG is valid.

Cores should be more worrying:
" Fine Gael 24 per cent (down two); Fianna Fáil 21 per cent (up one); Labour 4 per cent (up one); Sinn Féin 18 per cent (up three); Independents/Others 12 per cent (down three).

Undecided voters were at 21 per cent, unchanged since the last poll"

That's a big gain for SF.
Margin of Error is a rather more complicated beast than that. It only measures sampling error (not other types of error) and it's within the remit of a poll's authors to choose the MoE depending on what confidence interval (99%, 95%, 90% etc...) they want to report.

This poll is more significant than recent ones but it's still just one poll.
 

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SF support among 18-24 year olds is 42%; drops dramatically to 26% among 25-34 year olds.
FG support goes from 19% for younger age group to 32% for 25-34 year olds.

People realising tooth-fairy and money-tree don't exist as soon as they hit the workforce?

(yes I know margin of error is large for sub-groups).
 

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Support for the Provisional Cult has suddenly shot up.

Can we have an open discussion about the Provisional Cult ?

About the political wing, of the armed element of a criminal racket ?

I think it is about time we had an honest discussion on the matter.
 

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Margin of Error is a rather more complicated beast than that. It only measures sampling error (not other types of error) and it's within the remit of a poll's authors to choose the MoE depending on what confidence interval (99%, 95%, 90% etc...) they want to report.

This poll is more significant than recent ones but it's still just one poll.
Yep but SF's gain is in both Core and the inflated version. That's the worrying thing for FF in that it may not be an artefact of the sampling like FF's and Labour's "gain" of 1%.
 

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About the political wing, of the armed element of a criminal racket ?
At this stage, people are wondering which parties are not the political elements of criminal rackets. :)
 

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SF were up to the mid 20s in 2014 under Adams.

All SF are going to do in government is tell the long term unemployed to go back to education.
 

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I wouldn't be too worried about the ethics angle. SF regularly wrestle with their consciences....and win.
How things have changed. Usen't that be said of Labour once? :)
 

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Sol/PBP seem to be stuck in the anti-Sinn Féin groove, as can be seen from this thread.

If they followed a more united left approach, while accepting that each element has its own policies and ethos, they might do better.
 


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