Should Cowen go to the park right now

Asparagus

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With johngormley announcing an end date for the coalition of late Jan - is there any reason why Cowen should hang about.
Theres very little in it for him to allow the greens to call the shots - FFs only hope of survival was a year or so of recovery that they could point to and claim.

A snap election would at least catch the labour machine on the hop and see 17% FF vote rather than say 15%.
 


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Na, FF would prefer to let people have a merry time over Xmas as memories of the IMF are blurred
 

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Cowen is a disgrace and should have gone ages ago!

The question is, will Cowen go now/January and be replaced by a 3rd Taoiseach who will be a caretaker until the Government is destroyed.

Or, will Cowen remain as Taoiseach until the election but be replaced as FF leader?

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btw...15%....17% both equal devastation!
 

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Na, FF would prefer to let people have a merry time over Xmas as memories of the IMF are blurred
Joking right - end of January is the most depressing time of the year - you run out of money about the 8th and your eating baked beans and toast for 3 weeks.

Plus we could have a hell of a snow fall in Jan if last year is repeated.
 

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I think Cowen pretty much has to now. This government is now finished. How can they have a cabinet meeting now? Will he sack the Green Ministers?

Its over.

If the Greens thought the budget could still go ahead on Dec 7th as planned by Lenihan they were deluded.
 

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He should go now, but it's a pity gormely didn't announce this before the IMF and EU arrived.
 

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I think Cowen pretty much has to now. This government is now finished. How can they have a cabinet meeting now? Will he sack the Green Ministers?

Its over.

If the Greens thought the budget could still go ahead on Dec 7th as planned by Lenihan they were deluded.
the greens don't want to be seen as pulling the plug on the budget - they want to look somewhat responsible...
 

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Cowen is a disgrace and should have gone ages ago!

The question is, will Cowen go now/January and be replaced by a 3rd Taoiseach who will be a caretaker until the Government is destroyed.

Or, will Cowen remain as Taoiseach until the election but be replaced as FF leader?
Option 1. He has it in his gift to give a friend a car for life and a massive pension boost.

He wouldn't be a FFer if he didn't take this opportunity.

Willie O'Dea for Taoiseach!!
 

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I don't think there is time to have an election before Christmas now.

Not sure who benefits from an election in January as the traditional post Christmas blues will have hit in. Good opportunity for politicians to talk to people in their homes as people usually reduce spending after Christmas so more likely to be at home.
 

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I don't think there is time to have an election before Christmas now.

Not sure who benefits from an election in January as the traditional post Christmas blues will have hit in. Good opportunity for politicians to talk to people in their homes as people usually reduce spending after Christmas so more likely to be at home.
Cold weather and snow also reduces the turnout - yikes
 

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Joking right - end of January is the most depressing time of the year - you run out of money about the 8th and your eating baked beans and toast for 3 weeks.

Plus we could have a hell of a snow fall in Jan if last year is repeated.
Maybe they are counting on snow and people not getting to the polls :)
 

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He would look the right fool though considering he has stated numerous times that this government will go the full term.
 

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I think Cowen pretty much has to now. This government is now finished. How can they have a cabinet meeting now? Will he sack the Green Ministers?

Its over.

If the Greens thought the budget could still go ahead on Dec 7th as planned by Lenihan they were deluded.
The Greens have driven a nail into any hopes of getting a budget thru by this Govt, diva politics!!

FG and Lab should step up and say they will co-operate until Jan 1 to get this thru, in return for complete disclosure and participation in the EU/IMF talks.
 

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Maybe they are counting on snow and people not getting to the polls :)
Minister for Snow (Snow action more like) calls for election during likely snowstorm where people may have to stay home.
Also cuts to pensions in upcoming budget may lead to more OAPs dying of cold thus further reducing the turnout.
 


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