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Should Delaney resign?


Should John Delaney Resign from the FAI?

  • Yes

    Votes: 140 72.9%
  • No

    Votes: 52 27.1%

  • Total voters
    192
  • Poll closed .

artfoley56

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So we ignore all the FAI/IRFU statements, the press, websites, wiki etc because you are demanding to see the deeds? Very Denglesesque.

You are wrong. Get on with your life.
dear chap you've been beaten up a stick on this thread so its not surprising to see this type of stuff out of you.
 

stanley

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"Mr Delaney is confident that he will retain his €160,000-a-year role on the Uefa Executive Committee and European football's governing body has confirmed a member can "technically" stay on if they are not involved with their national association.
Germany's Reinhard Grindel stood down from the Uefa committee last week after leaving his own association due to allegations of undeclared earnings. It was reported in Germany that he initially believed he could retain his role with Uefa as he does not have to stand for re-election until 2021".


Looks very like Del Boy tried to hustle the Board to create the Exec Pres role on the back of UEFA's requirements which now look grey rather than black and white.
Let him off with no compo and promise a forensic accountant will go through every transaction since he came on board.
 

Clanrickard

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52 people actually think Del Boy shouldn't resign!?!?! What the actual f**k?
 

stanley

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This means that despite the surge of optimism marking Mick McCarthy's first competitive home game in charge, one fifth of the 40,317 crowd did not pay to attend the 1-0 win in Dublin.

Pushing snowballs uphill, a dreadful secret charade by Del Boy.
 

Emily Davison

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Ok, Ill bite. You described a 50/50 ownership structure as a timeshare. How can one half owner be in a timeshare and the other not?
Whoever owns the land, in the deeds, owns the place. A timeshare is not ownership. It gives legal rights but not ownership. It's like having the rights to use a holiday home on certain occassions. ie Time - share.
 

Buchaill Dana

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Whoever owns the land, in the deeds, owns the place. A timeshare is not ownership. It gives legal rights but not ownership. It's like having the rights to use a holiday home on certain occassions. ie Time - share.
Its more like owning an apartment, but carry on.
 

Emily Davison

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Its more like owning an apartment, but carry on.
Not really. If you own an apartment it's yours. And you don't have to share it with anybody else.


Seems there that the IRFU owns the place.

Unlike its predecessor, which was solely owned by the Irish Rugby Football Union (IRFU), the current stadium is controlled by the IRFU and the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) through a 50:50 joint venture known as the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company (LRSDC). The joint venture has a 60-year lease on the stadium;[12] on expiry the stadium will return to the exclusive ownership of the IRFU.[13]

But that both the IRFU and the FAI have a lease 50/50. But that lease is not ownership.

So
a) IRFU owns the place
b) IRFU plus FAI have created LRSDC
c) IRFU leases to LRSDC

I think that's what Art meant by 'holding company' LRSDC.

I do not see that the FAI actually own anything. They have rights under the lease via LRSDC.
 

Hillmanhunter1

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Not really. If you own an apartment it's yours. And you don't have to share it with anybody else.


Seems there that the IRFU owns the place.

Unlike its predecessor, which was solely owned by the Irish Rugby Football Union (IRFU), the current stadium is controlled by the IRFU and the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) through a 50:50 joint venture known as the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company (LRSDC). The joint venture has a 60-year lease on the stadium;[12] on expiry the stadium will return to the exclusive ownership of the IRFU.[13]

But that both the IRFU and the FAI have a lease 50/50. But that lease is not ownership.

So
a) IRFU owns the place
b) IRFU plus FAI have created LRSDC
c) IRFU leases to LRSDC

I think that's what Art meant by 'holding company' LRSDC.

I do not see that the FAI actually own anything. They have rights under the lease via LRSDC.
Strictly speaking this may be true, but the fact is that LRSDC has a 60-year lease - roughly the expected life-span of the stadium.

If the LRSDC is paying a market rent to the IRFU then that's clearly going to be a transfer of value from the FAI to the IRFU, but if the rent is a peppercorn rent or at least non-market then the deal begins to look a bit better for the FAI. They didn't have to cough up for the site, so its not wrong that the site should revert to the IRFU when the lease has expired.
 

Ardillaun

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We leave people on boards too long in Ireland:

One champion of corporate governance, who defies the stereotype that such people must be dull dogs, told this writer yesterday that six years' service is about optimum for a non-executive director. After that, there is a serious risk that the 'old pals' act' begins to kick in.
Personal relationships can blur the rules and procedures, the slippery slope beckons. Half of the FAI board have been in office for 14 years or more. It is fair to ask whether this scenario has contributed to the organisation' current pickle, with its Sport Ireland funding suspended, and other immediate grants under threat.
 

stanley

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A central part of the arrangements with IRFU was when the arrangement is finished in 40ish years, IRFU may then wish to build a new stadium for their own purposes and the FAI would hope to be in a position to do their own stadium.

Del Boy's gift will be that will not happen and they will be back to the IRFU for a new deal.
 

leftsoc

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That was after the world cup in the U.S 25 YEARS AGO.

Here we again.

We have the politicians talking bollocks about corporate governance.
Why is this highly relevant fact being treated a if it were a state secret by the media. They cant hide behind fear of libel. You cant libel the dead. Clearly the meejah are putting little deft kicks in , just to pretend to be doing their job (eg Eamonn Dunphy) but really are just protecting their buddy Delaney's feelings. He has clearly asked them not to mention his father and they have cravenly agreed. The general reading and viweing public , who ultimately pay journos wages, dont count for f--kall
 

stanley

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Del Boy's focus now will be on the money, how much can he walk away with 2/3m, none of which the FAI can afford.
 

carlovian

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Del Boy's focus now will be on the money, how much can he walk away with 2/3m, none of which the FAI can afford.
But surely he won’t leave the “football family’ short ?
 

Round tower

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Delaney, Hon. Secetary and the Hon. Treasurer has offered to step down, they and the then FAI president knew about the 100,000 loan.
 
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