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Should Donegal's mountain scenery be sacrificed for modest wind farm factory energy?


patslatt

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The people of Donegal are waking up to the planned sacrifice of their pristine mountain scenery to colossal turbines that spoil the view for many miles Wind Watch: Save Our Scenery benefit concerts

Generally,such wind farm factories are hopelessly uneconomic and survive only because of very expensive subsidies which must be paid for in higher electricity bills.So the consumer is being forced to pay for wrecking the Irish countryside.
 
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SinnShane

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Donegal is already destroyed with the amount of houses there. There seems to have always been a short-sighted approach to planning in the county. They may as well build away at this stage. There's better places to visit in Ireland.
 

davehiggz

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Wind Farms are uneconomical now, but when we have soaring oil prices they will make sense.

These developments have to happen sometime so resistance is futile in my view, we have to build them somewhere. Might as well get it over with.

Obviously these communities haven't considered the jobs that will come to Donegal with new energy developments. Screw the scenery
 

A view from England

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The people of Donegal are waking up to the planned sacrifice of their pristine mountain scenery to colossal turbines that spoil the view for many miles Wind Watch: Save Our Scenery benefit concerts

Generally,such wind farm factories are hopelessly uneconomic and survive only because of very expensive subsidies which must be paid for in higher electricity bills.So the consumer is being forced to pay for wrecking the Irish countryside.
No. Wind energy is inefficient and costly. It would be far better for Ireland to grasp the nettle and build a nuclear facility in Donegal. Clean and relaible energy, plenty of jobs. What more could you ask for? It would have to be a private venture though. Ireland is skint.:cry:
 

LiquidPaddy

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Wind farms are bogus investments to me. For what it is worth, I do recall Gordon Brown, during the UK election, mentioning that although it was quite windy where he resides in Scotland, it was more beneficial economically to have solar panels installed.
 

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junius

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Wind farms are not scenically dstructive. They are very pleasant to look at. Consider the alternatives and you will see that you are not badly off at all.
It would be far better for Ireland to grasp the nettle and build a nuclear facility in Donegal.
Or what about fossil fuel refinery as in North Mayo?

I think you are lucky. I'd welcome a windfarm on my doorstep no problem at all.
 

feargach

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Yes.

Donegal is utterly dependent on an oil supply that appears to be very fragile. They will need the option of electrically-powered transport.
 

goosebump

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Donegal is already destroyed with the amount of houses there. There seems to have always been a short-sighted approach to planning in the county. They may as well build away at this stage. There's better places to visit in Ireland.
+1

Donegal is a mess.

If you want real rural scenery, go to England or Scotland.
 

Cruimh

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Donegal is already destroyed with the amount of houses there. There seems to have always been a short-sighted approach to planning in the county. They may as well build away at this stage. There's better places to visit in Ireland.
I've given up - Ireland -North and South - is a joke in respect of looking after it's scenery. Ironic considering we want tourists.

I can see some wind turbines from one of my windows. I'd rather see them than more ugly housing . Only thing I've heard is that they can be noisy for locals ?
 

yehbut_nobut

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see those little white plastickly-looking dots? thats what passes for scenery in Donegal




more windfarms would be an improvment - more the better in my opinion.
 

Harry700

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Donegal has awesome beauty/scenary & is the last place for erecting this crap !!!!

Cheers,

Harry
 

hmmm

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I don't mind the turbines so much, but building access roads onto the mountains can create a lot of destruction.

It seems only reasonable that some areas should be off-limits for now, at least until we have exhausted the not-so-beautiful areas.
 

Esttopt

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Wind Farms are uneconomical now, but when we have soaring oil prices they will make sense.

These developments have to happen sometime so resistance is futile in my view, we have to build them somewhere. Might as well get it over with.

Obviously these communities haven't considered the jobs that will come to Donegal with new energy developments. Screw the scenery

Screw the scenery? Pathetic statement
 

rockofcashel

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1. The scenery excuse is bogus. "Some" scenery would be spoiled by erecting a wind farm in a certain place, but go a mile down the road and you would be back to the non wind farm scenery

2. Nuclear power is an option. Until nuclear fuel runs out. It is a finite resource, the same as oil and gas.

3. How come "wind energy" is deemed uneconomical in Ireland, when much more energy efficient countries in Europe have been harnessing wind technology for years ? Is there something more expensive about our wind as compared to the Dutch wind? or Swedish wind ?

People would need to cop themselves on.. if wind energy can provide a portion of our energy, then it should be used.
 

fiannafailure

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I would suggest to the people of Donegal that they should look at what Clare has done with its Wind Strategy.

Survey the county for its wind resources, omit any areas with an SAC or high amenity designation, do a high level EIS on the remaining areas.

And designate the resulting land area as a preferred wind energy zone.

That is what is now happening in the rest of the western counties.

Finally lets designate the area around patslatt's house as a gas fracking zone
 

slx

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see those little white plastickly-looking dots? thats what passes for scenery in Donegal




more windfarms would be an improvment - more the better in my opinion.
That looks rather like Dublin's high-density outer suburbs :D
 

fiannafailure

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1. The scenery excuse is bogus. "Some" scenery would be spoiled by erecting a wind farm in a certain place, but go a mile down the road and you would be back to the non wind farm scenery
Agreed

2. Nuclear power is an option. Until nuclear fuel runs out. It is a finite resource, the same as oil and gas.
Nail on the head

3. How come "wind energy" is deemed uneconomical in Ireland, when much more energy efficient countries in Europe have been harnessing wind technology for years ? Is there something more expensive about our wind as compared to the Dutch wind? or Swedish wind ?
Vested interests and the lack of an indepth national energy policy, also almost every other country in Europe has already embraced and use energy storage in some form or another.

Ireland relies on the very small Turlough Hill facility, ironically the only part of our nuclear energy program ever to be built.

People would need to cop themselves on.. if wind energy can provide a portion of our energy, then it should be used.
 
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