Should Dublin have a red light district?



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as some one mentioned earlier its technically legal here but I would support legalising it further and having it controlled
Do like in other countries and give them manditory health checks.

prositution is legal, decriminalised or just there with a blind eye turned in most countries.
Do to my cheapness I have stayed in the red light dstricts f Paris Amersterdam and Brussels

I would like us however to do what the berliners do as opposed to the amsterdamians (?) and not have a center area but have it dotted around the city.
In berlin prositution is leagalised but you dont have a central area (t my knoweldge) but rather brothels "night clubs" and sex kinos. FKK bars (google it) dotted around the city oftem beside other businesses and appartments.

There are also gay saunas and various sex shops
 

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Up until roughly 90 years ago, Dublin had a famous red light district known as Monto. This was reputedly the largest red light district in Europe, and was located in the area around Talbot St, Gardiner St and Amiens St. Anyone who has read Ulysses by Joyce will know it as the 'nighttown' area described in the Circe episode.

Monto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After independence, the area was 'cleaned up' by the Legion of Mary, and prostitution went underground. Since 1993 it has been illegal for prostitutes to hang around on the streets touting for business.

Red light districts are major tourist attractions in cities like Amsterdam and Hamburg. The prostitution / sex industry exists in Ireland. Wouldn't it make more economic sense, and be less hypocritical, to allow it to be carried out openly and taxed as any other economic activity?
Most certainly NOT. The 6th Commandment states "thou shall not commit adultery". For moral and health reasons prostitution should under no circumstances be tolerated. Red light districts are sewers of immorality.
 

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Most certainly NOT. The 6th Commandment states "thou shall not commit adultery". For moral and health reasons prostitution should under no circumstances be tolerated. Red light districts are sewers of immorality.
I don't have time atm to go through your previous posts. Please tell me you are jesting.

If you are serious, I will delete my account and remove myself from Politics.ie.
 

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I don't have time atm to go through your previous posts. Please tell me you are jesting.

If you are serious, I will delete my account and remove myself from Politics.ie.
A quick browse shows me you are a right-wing red faced blustering priest/farmer/pot bellied idiot, or some form of amalgamation of all three.

Goodbye.
 

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Prostitution is the base dehumanization of women.
If the morons on this thread who are in favor of legalization, would they encourage prostitution to be advertised as a career in secondary schools or on college campuses? Would they like their daughters or mothers to be prostitutes?
The pornification of culture means that young girls are wearing t-shirts with 'cute' playboy symbols.
Intelligent educated young women are still treated like meat and paid less than their male co-workers.
The amount of casual sexism and the number of rapes in Irish society show that women have still a long way to go to achieve equality.
Men have a feeling of entitlement - they work, they go out, they drink heavily and they demand sex.
Women have never been MORE objectified as masturbation accessories than ever before.
Dublin does not need a red light district.
IT NEEDS SOME DAMNED RESPECT FOR WOMEN.
Was only a matter of time before the femist brigade came to this thread, like moths to a candle!

If you had bothered to read the previous posts you would have come upon this:

Legal or not, sex industry powers on

To sum up the findings: Legalisation has a significant benefit to the health of the workers in the industry. If you gave one hoot about the women involved you would want legalisation.

But obviously empirical findings are irrelevant to you and the fantasy world you live in.
 

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A red light would be better than no light at all I suppose.

And there was me thinking that shower in ff were just a crowd of w(a)nkers.
 
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@Punchdrunk: Your kiddin right?!?

Frankly, I'd rather my (eventual?)daughter didn't go into prostituton but if she decided, for whatever reason, that she wanted to be a ho then I'd like to think that she would be kept as safe as possible.
The only way the state can do that is to regulate the industry.

Of course I'd rather she kept her legs shut.
 

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I don't have time atm to go through your previous posts. Please tell me you are jesting.

If you are serious, I will delete my account and remove myself from Politics.ie.
Don't you dare do that, these trolls add colour to the debate, despite their crazy views they do indeed represent some peoples views, find them amusing myself tbh.
 

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Most certainly NOT. The 6th Commandment states "thou shall not commit adultery". For moral and health reasons prostitution should under no circumstances be tolerated. Red light districts are sewers of immorality.
So you base your morality on middle eastern desert mythology? whos to say that your beloved "virgin" mary(who may never even have existed) wasnt a prostitute, servicing those roman garrisons?
 

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Prostitution is the base dehumanization of women.
If the morons on this thread who are in favor of legalization, would they encourage prostitution to be advertised as a career in secondary schools or on college campuses? Would they like their daughters or mothers to be prostitutes?
The pornification of culture means that young girls are wearing t-shirts with 'cute' playboy symbols.
Intelligent educated young women are still treated like meat and paid less than their male co-workers.
The amount of casual sexism and the number of rapes in Irish society show that women have still a long way to go to achieve equality.
Men have a feeling of entitlement - they work, they go out, they drink heavily and they demand sex.
Women have never been MORE objectified as masturbation accessories than ever before.
Dublin does not need a red light district.
IT NEEDS SOME DAMNED RESPECT FOR WOMEN.
:D Funny, both funny weird and funny ha ha.
 

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So you base your morality on middle eastern desert mythology? whos to say that your beloved "virgin" mary(who may never even have existed) wasnt a prostitute, servicing those roman garrisons?
What's that quote about arguing with an idiot, they bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience. :D
 
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There seems to be an inordinate amount of concern being shown for women on threads tonight on P.ie.

Abortion on one thread, prostitution on another.

As usual, there are the usual who presume that both abortion and prostitution are acts carried out by women, either willingly, on the one hand, which makes them evil, or unwillingly, which makes them victims. According to these posters, women are devoid of making choices, or unable to choose, are incapable of forming a decision and choosing an avenue. That is so bloody insulting to women.

I also note that no one has mentioned the role that drug abuse plays in women prostituting themselves. But that would admit there is drug abuse in Ireland and we can't have that either, can we? We will export that with the rest of our sins, to England. I mean, after all, as the Storm Trooper SS would say, that too would be the final nail in the coffin of the great patriots of 1916. Me being one of the nails, by the way, God, imagine how important I must be. Bet none of you knew that?
 

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There seems to be an inordinate amount of concern being shown for women on threads tonight on P.ie.

Abortion on one thread, prostitution on another.

As usual, there are the usual who presume that both abortion and prostitution are acts carried out by women, either willingly, on the one hand, which makes them evil, or unwillingly, which makes them victims. According to these posters, women are devoid of making choices, or unable to choose, are incapable of forming a decision and choosing an avenue. That is so bloody insulting to women.

I also note that no one has mentioned the role that drug abuse plays in women prostituting themselves. But that would admit there is drug abuse in Ireland and we can't have that either, can we? We will export that with the rest of our sins, to England. I mean, after all, as the Storm Trooper SS would say, that too would be the final nail in the coffin of the great patriots of 1916. Me being one of the nails, by the way, God, imagine how important I must be. Bet none of you knew that?
The reason clients arent interested in the heroin whores at the canal, is that the vast number of whores have been brought in since the 97 floodgate broke. 9 out of 10 whores are foreigners, why the hell would you go near a scaghead when you can get some fresh trafficked whore. Get a grip Laz, drugs arent even part of the picture, most whores are mainly foreigners these days, the cops in this country are the enemy, they dont give a sh1t.

Think about 1992 in Ireland. Whats the difference between then and today.
 
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There seems to be an inordinate amount of concern being shown for women on threads tonight on P.ie.

Abortion on one thread, prostitution on another.

As usual, there are the usual who presume that both abortion and prostitution are acts carried out by women, either willingly, on the one hand, which makes them evil, or unwillingly, which makes them victims. According to these posters, women are devoid of making choices, or unable to choose, are incapable of forming a decision and choosing an avenue. That is so bloody insulting to women.

I also note that no one has mentioned the role that drug abuse plays in women prostituting themselves. But that would admit there is drug abuse in Ireland and we can't have that either, can we? We will export that with the rest of our sins, to England. I mean, after all, as the Storm Trooper SS would say, that too would be the final nail in the coffin of the great patriots of 1916. Me being one of the nails, by the way, God, imagine how important I must be. Bet none of you knew that?
This isn't a 'women's' issue at all as such not just because it also affects male prostitutes but also because it is an issue that touches on the core question of what is a person, can a person be sold for the purposes of temporary degradation? That question touches on all people and the class of humankind itself.

Societies have different levels of respect for human dignity, how they change and decide what is permissible (such as allowing humans to go underneath raw sewage with no protection) is through laws, either the relaxation of them or the introduction of new ones. This isn't just a question of individual choice but has ramifications for everyone.

So you base your morality on middle eastern desert mythology? whos to say that your beloved "virgin" mary(who may never even have existed) wasnt a prostitute, servicing those roman garrisons?
Punchdrunk is one of the pro-prostitution people pretending to be anti and giving an easily dismissable stupid reason why prostitution should be banned so that pro-prostitution debaters can then destroy this strawman and then claim to have silenced the other side, cheap tactic.
 
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This isn't a 'women's' issue at all as such not just because it also affects male prostitutes but also because it is an issue that touches on the core question of what is a person, can a person be sold for the purposes of temporary degradation? That question touches on all people and the class of humankind itself.

Societies have different levels of respect for human dignity, how they change and decide what is permissible (such as allowing humans to go underneath raw sewage with no protection) is through laws, either the relaxation of them or the introduction of new ones. This isn't just a question of individual choice but has ramifications for everyone.
Is it degrading to slap on face paint and clown shoes? Is it degrading to clean toilets?
As long as the individual freely decides to do it then let them at it.
 

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Is it degrading to slap on face paint and clown shoes? Is it degrading to clean toilets?
As long as the individual freely decides to do it then let them at it.
For the same reason why we have a minimum wage we also prevent people from selling themselves for money. For the same reason we don't crap on the ground we don't allow people to go naked into human sewage. It degrades all of society for the benefit of a few pimps and scumbags.

Let them find work some other way or get welfare or move abroad. The women are degraded by it but i am also prepared to consider re-evaluating an opinion of them as 'victims' in all of this too - especially in a country like Ireland which is not exactly Bangkok.
 
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The reason clients arent interested in the heroin whores at the canal, is that the vast number of whores have been brought in since the 97 floodgate broke. 9 out of 10 whores are foreigners, why the hell would you go near a scaghead when you can get some fresh trafficked whore. Get a grip Laz, drugs arent even part of the picture, most whores are mainly foreigners these days, the cops in this country are the enemy, they dont give a sh1t.

Think about 1992 in Ireland. Whats the difference between then and today.
But Tele, lamb, it is unfortunately the truth, that a drug misuser will in fact do anything for a few bob, and despite the influx of foreign workers into the trade, as in all trades, I know that female drug misusers suffer dreadfullly from selling their bodies. There is always an underbelly in all trades as you know, and the statistics, which if I had a brain cell I could give you a link to, but Addiction Response Crumlin.ie will, show that the damage to the ....lets just say to the bodies of these women is horrendous, due in part to the effect crack has on their bodily fluids.

You are right of course, in that I have been out of the city for a long time now, and I take your word for it that the status quo remains regarding the cop on the beat.
 


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