Should Ireland pay for Welsh roads post Brexit?



ruserious

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Should the UK pay for the maintenance of Calais Port?
 

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You certainly should according to UKIP - your hauliers use Welsh roads & you'll have access to European funds after Brexit, while we won't - largely thanks to UKIP.

UKIP wants the Irish government to help pay for a motorway in Wales with EU funds
Makes sense....all countries in Europe use their neighbour's roads.

So all should contribute to the upkeep of those roads.

In fact, they should all probably form some sort of union, based on joint trade agreements and access to a common market, and designate some sort of fund for the upkeep of roads. No idea what we could call it though.

UKIP might be onto something.
 
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Ah sure, why not?

Aren't we already funding roads in the Six Counties?
 

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I think we need a tunnel from Cork to Roscoff.

If the UK is not in the customs union, shipping out exports via the UK would be expensive. It would likely make some goods subject to tariffs, and it would certainly make all goods subject to painful levels of paperwork.
 

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On the face of it,, ehh, it kinda makes some sense,, there is no economic benefit for the UK to allow free access to their road network so a road toll would make some sense based on mileage and weight.

Not forgetting customs/excise, security checks etc, this will be some sticky wicket to sort out,, perhaps an arrangement could be made whereby Ireland gives the Brits something in return instead of setting up a complicated Tariff on hauliers,,

Perhaps a Naval supply only base in Cork or the South West ? nothing military , just something that is of equal economic value for using their roads,,
 

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You certainly should according to UKIP - your hauliers use Welsh roads & you'll have access to European funds after Brexit, while we won't - largely thanks to UKIP.

UKIP wants the Irish government to help pay for a motorway in Wales with EU funds

It would make much more sense to ask Irish hauliers to pay for use of the motorway once it is built, on the basis that they would be foreigners using British infrastructure.

Irish (and other foreign) hauliers could pay a toll for use of the motorway.
 

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Party, whose sole reason for existence is to leave the EU, wants EU member state to access EU funds to pay for infrastructure no longer in the EU at behest of said party. LOL
 

Elvis jaffacake

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How about no....Brexit is Brexit as has been repeated ad nauseam
 
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I see an opportunity for a Trumpesque politician here...

"We are going to have a bridge. Let me tell you, it's going to be fantastic. Beautiful, this bridge. This will be the best, biggest bridge... All the way to France. We will hire the best people to build it, and I'm gonna make the Walesicans and the Englicans pay for it.
 

Old Mr Grouser

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You certainly should according to UKIP - your hauliers use Welsh roads & you'll have access to European funds after Brexit, while we won't - largely thanks to UKIP.

UKIP wants the Irish government to help pay for a motorway in Wales with EU funds
Rowlands was talking tripe.

But when he said that, "under-investment in many smaller cross-border sections, and bottlenecks", he was reflecting a real sense of grievance felt in some parts of Wales.

The main railway lines into Wales were routed primarily so as to provide a fast link from England to Ireland, not to serve Welsh towns; and to some extent the same applied when the major trunk roads were built.

Even today the road links between some Welsh towns are poor, and the maintenance of them is utterly inadequate in winter.
 

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It would make much more sense to ask Irish hauliers to pay for use of the motorway once it is built, on the basis that they would be foreigners using British infrastructure.

Irish (and other foreign) hauliers could pay a toll for use of the motorway.
Afaik they already do.
 

Old Mr Grouser

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Afaik they already do.
Correct.


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The charges might increase post-Brexit. But that's unlikely since it would almost certainly result in retaliatory action against UK lorries travelling across the EC.
 

Cai

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Rowlands was talking tripe.

But when he said that, "under-investment in many smaller cross-border sections, and bottlenecks", he was reflecting a real sense of grievance felt in some parts of Wales.

The main railway lines into Wales were routed primarily so as to provide a fast link from England to Ireland, not to serve Welsh towns; and to some extent the same applied when the major trunk roads were built.

Even today the road links between some Welsh towns are poor, and the maintenance of them is utterly inadequate in winter.
That's why the railway to Holyhead was built. The southern route was built because Bristol merchants got scared of competition from Liverpool & paid for a link with London. The South Wales line was built as an adjunct to that.

On the issue of general transport in Wales, it's generally good from West to East (except for the notorious bottle neck outside Newport), but sh1te from North to South. The reasons for that should be fairly obvious.
 

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Makes sense....all countries in Europe use their neighbour's roads.

So all should contribute to the upkeep of those roads.

In fact, they should all probably form some sort of union, based on joint trade agreements and access to a common market, and designate some sort of fund for the upkeep of roads. No idea what we could call it though.

UKIP might be onto something.
Structurally sound idea.
 

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With the prospect of a customs border with NI, FG will probably pull the plug on the motorway to Derry. The ROI contribution to the M(A8) to Larne was a mistake, and I think that money should be refunded to the ROI should a customs border be implemented. No we certainly cannot fund road projects in Wales if Irish companies are paying a customs duty.
 


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