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Should local candidates be resident in their constituency?


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Should local election candidates be resident in their constituency?

In Lucan and Palmerstown it seems that most of the candidates live elsewhere.

Two Fianna Failers, one Independent Fianna Fail, one Labour and one Independent Green live outside the constituency. Excuses ranging from “I use to socialise there" and “I have lived there for 25 years” (didn’t mention that they were not the most recent 25 years) are abound. What about Local representation By Local Politicians?
 
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Ah Well

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In Lucan and Palmerstown it seems that most of the candidates live elsewhere.

Two Fianna Failers, one Independent Fianna Fail, one Labour and one Independent Green live outside the constituency. Excuses range from “I use to socialise there" and “I have lived there for 25 years” (didn’t mention that they were not the mot recent 25 years are abound. What about Local representation By Local Politicians?
I agree with you there.

And that leads on to the situation of people running for and up to now also getting elected both to Town Councils and County Councils. Personally I don't agree with that at all nor should it be allowed either.

One should resident in the LEA area they run for.... I mean ... think about it... you are seeking election to an area and seeking votes from people who reside in that area and yet you do not? .... That's nonsense ....

If you're running for a Town Council you should live in the town with those who elect you and have your seat in and work for the benefit of this Electorate. the same goes for County Council elections.

Scrap this eligibility and common practice of dual councillors for Towns and Counties .... either stay in one and promote that area to the best of one's ability for the electorate who voted you in or don't bother participating at all
 

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In Lucan and Palmerstown it seems that most of the candidates live elsewhere.

Two Fianna Failers, one Independent Fianna Fail, one Labour and one Independent Green live outside the constituency. Excuses ranging from “I use to socialise there" and “I have lived there for 25 years” (didn’t mention that they were not the most recent 25 years) are abound. What about Local representation By Local Politicians?
afternoondelight, I can only speak for the IND GREEN, but just for the record yes I live in Laraghcon for the past 2 years which is on the other side of the Liffey and not in the LEA - but my address is still Lucan.

I have lived 13 years prior to this in the Superquinn area where my 3 children still live and all attend school there.

I don't need excuses, I shop - socialise - my friends live here, I use the Demesne and have been on many committees to do my part in making Lucan a better place to live in - I love the area and know every estate and park in it.

I AM A LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE - FACT

This may have been an error on your behalf but please do a little more research in future.:oops:
 

Murra

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Whats an 'Independent Green'?
 

dsmythy

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I don't think they should be forced to live in their constituency but should voters decide not to vote for them for this reason then so be it.
 

UncleJim

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I don't agree at all that candidates should have to reside in a constituency in order to seek election. As long as a candidate seeks to genuinely represent an area and its constituents to the best of their ability then I believe that residing in that area becomes less relevant. Nowdays, with election boundaries changing so often, it is the case that public reps who used to live within an electoral boundary are moved outside - why should they not continue their good work and seek to be re-elected??

Also, if one was to agree with the principle that only a resident can best represent an area then surely you could apply a similar principle such that only a woman can truly represent the women in a constiuency... only an immigrant can represent people from abroad.... and so on. Representation doesn't have to be about empathising with people but more about the ability to sympathise and act accordingly on their behalf.

There is already a lack of people who are willing to put themselves forward to seek election - if there was an abundance of candidates seeking election well then maybe the suggestion of using a set of criteria to filter them down would be more relevant.
 
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I'll still look upon you as another blow in just like the rest of them............
 

Shylock

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Candidates should live in their constituency. Especially in Local government terms. I mean it's the core of a candidature to live locally. Its an essential pillar in any campaign.
 

UncleJim

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No offence Shylock but I wouldn't want you to be picking my local candidates for me because if you think it is the core of the candidature to live in a particular area I feel there is something wrong. I think the "core of the candidature" should involve for example - dedication, committment to policies, willingness to improve people's lot etc.
The residence of a candidate is at least secondary. If I had to choose from a candidate from just outside and area who had real integrity and a good for nothing mefeiner I know who I'd vote for.

All that aside it is important that a rep show a real committment to an area and doesn't just pick there to represent just cause they think they have a good shot at being elected.
 

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In Lucan and Palmerstown it seems that most of the candidates live elsewhere.

Two Fianna Failers, one Independent Fianna Fail, one Labour and one Independent Green live outside the constituency
Ususally I'd argue for a bit of flexibility on this issue (boundaries can change radically, people can have family or work ties in the area but not live there etc etc)......but this seems off the wall.
 

goosebump

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In the end of the day, voters will decide where a candidate should live.

It wouldn't affect my voting intention. Boundaries are usually drawn along natural lines like rivers, which often don't reflect the social and economic integration of an area.

eg

the town of Athlone is split between 2 constituencies.
 

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Should local election candidates be resident in their constituency?

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It's not a hard and fast rule. Boundaries change, you can hardly expect people to move house just to stay inside a new boundary.

It's fair to ask someone what their connection is with the area and you can make up your own mind.

In the case above, Laraghcon for all intents and purposes is Lucan. Sw@nky gaffs there too, swit-swoo. (Overly sensitive censor on these forums!)

Not everyone has the luxury I have of living in the same house you grew up in and having your parents move out.
 

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All three Labour candidates in Pembroke-Rathmines live in the area - the same cannot be said for any of the other multi-candidate Parties.
 

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All three Labour candidates in Pembroke-Rathmines live in the area - the same cannot be said for any of the other multi-candidate Parties.
Yes and apparently two of these candidates are going to romp home, but Dermot Lacy will be fighting for the 6th seat :roll:
 
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So what? .........
Well the point would be that they know the area better and therefore can do a better job. Not an absolute rule by any means, but a local person should care more about the area.

Btw, I am not refering to candidates who live on the wrong side of a road, that just unlucky.

Also, I have concerns with candidates who hapen to live in an area for a year or two when a kid and move out for 15 years or more and move back in just before election time and state on leaflets etc that they grew up in the area. That is misleading. To say I grew up in an area and still live here (not mentioning the 15-20 year gap) is misleading the voters.

Thats the problem with candidates outside the constituency. They are not upfront about the situation and mislead the voters. Not all voters are Political like EVERYONE on here, and know the candidates etc.
 
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