Should microbeads be banned?

Alphonse

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The government today has blocked a bill to ban the production and sale of micobeads claiming the cannot due to EU treaty binds

Microbeads bill 'dead in the water'

Is this a wise decision by the government? And are they really powerless to ban microbeads?
Is it perhaps the interest of private business been given priority over citizens and the environment?

Microbeads have already been banned in other parts of the world due to environmental concerns.

https://marinedebris.noaa.gov/types-and-sources-solutions/states-consider-plastic-microbead-bans

If the government cannot ban microbeads can the issue be taken to European courts?
 


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Maire Whelan is intellectually feeble ... but plaisant , which is why the Wally kept her on

Kenny , if pressed, will cite confidentiality on the legal advice - and his information terrorists, will savage those of us who suggest the advice is cráp

The issue is not wanting to be seen to take a stand that might be in any way commerically harmful

Wally and his Pig are Green Jerseyists, backed up by legal advice on the back of a Guinness mat from a champagne Socialist

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The government today has blocked a bill to ban the production and sale of micobeads claiming the cannot due to EU treaty binds

Microbeads bill 'dead in the water'

Is this a wise decision by the government? And are they really powerless to ban microbeads?
Is it perhaps the interest of private business been given priority over citizens and the environment?

Microbeads have already been banned in other parts of the world due to environmental concerns.

https://marinedebris.noaa.gov/types-and-sources-solutions/states-consider-plastic-microbead-bans

If the government cannot ban microbeads can the issue be taken to European courts?
They need to be banned. There is no economic reason to ban them as there are ecologically sustainable replacements available that are as cheap or cheaper.
 

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They are a cheap replacement for natural products.
There has not been any safety testing or environmental impact assessments carried out to my knowledge.
Micro beads shouldn't be used until some decent environmental assessment is carried out.
 

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"Buy one staphylococcus now, and get two Salmonella absolutely free"

A microbe-ad.
 

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Kenny probably drank some contaminated water and all those microbeads went up his already quite dysfunctional brain. We should ask Irish Water to give it a good rinse !
 

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No
Ireland will probably make them compulsory just as the rest of the world bans them. There will be some lobbyist working for one of the big household goods companies behind the killing of the bill.

And the impossibility of banning microbeads being banned by reference to EU law is just another one of those 'commercial confidentiality'-style moments in Irish public life when the Oireachtas tries to divert attention somewhere harmless.

Either that or some TD has a microbead ranch where all the little microbeads are regularly rounded up and herded into a really small truck for processing in the late spring after they've been fattened up on that sweet, sweet grass.

Nope. On second and third thoughts there will have been a 'phone call from some distributor of bathroom products to some Minister saying 'I've a feckin' warehouse full of Hawaiian microbeaded bodywash yah bollicks- kill this bill or I'm lookin' at a big room full a banned stuff and Unilever won't take it back. Blame the Germans or Brussels or whatever. But don't ban nothing until the warehouse is empty.'
 

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Another triumph of our EU membership.
 

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No
I doubt it has anything at all to do with EU membership or rules as other EU member states are moving or have moved to ban them.

That'll just be the excuse trotted out for Paddy. 5/1 it will be a lobbyist for a distributor with a warehouse full of microbeaded cosmetic stuff behind them.
 

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The Swedes and Danes are looking at this issue too. From what I can gather from this article, the Swedes will have a national ban in place from Jan 2018.

Again....no EU treaty/ies appear to be limiting their actions....?!

Denmark pushes for microbead ban in Europe
January 2018 in France too, they were talking about it on the radio the other day.
In fact I thought it was a Europe-wide ban. Did I get that wrong?
 

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Jesus I hadnt even realised such a thing existed. How on earth could anyone possibly think they were a good idea!!
 
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January 2018 in France too, they were talking about it on the radio the other day.
In fact I thought it was a Europe-wide ban. Did I get that wrong?
AFAICS. it's not going to be EU-wide yet although the Swedes are pushing for that.

Probably, our shower of gombeens will sit on their hands until they're forced to move by Brussels.
 

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Jesus I hadnt even realised such a thing existed. How on earth could anyone possibly think they were a good idea!!
I believe that the major cosmetic companies have removed, or are removing them from their products.

The issue revolves around the fact that the long held assumption that plastic breaks down chemically in the environment is proving to be inaccurate and what is actually happening is that it just breaks up mechanically into smaller and smaller pieces. These small items are not toxic but they lodge in animals digestive systems and other organs where they interfere with their function, in other words an accumulation of tiny bits of plastic can kill wildlife. Microbeads are tiny bits of plastic that are introduced directly into the environment hence the desire to see them banned.
 

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I doubt it has anything at all to do with EU membership or rules as other EU member states are moving or have moved to ban them.

That'll just be the excuse trotted out for Paddy. 5/1 it will be a lobbyist for a distributor with a warehouse full of microbeaded cosmetic stuff behind them.
Are you implying that the government are hiding behind a dodgy interpretation of EU legislation in a bid to serve commercial interests before those of the citizens? Surely not, who'd ever of thunk it!
 
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Let me put it this way: even the Daily Mail, which is notoriously sceptical about this sort of thing, backs banning them.
 

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Feck sake. My Skin wont look as great when they are banned.

I use this 3 or 4 times a week. It's excellent.
 


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