Should MPs from the North be invited to become Ex-Officio members of Dáil Éireann?

ruserious

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Given the trajectory of travel towards a United Ireland in the not too distant future, should we consider inviting Northern MPs into the Dáil on an ex-officio basis?

Should there be a United Ireland in the future, it makes sense to me that all Northern MPs should have the right to sit in the Dáil and voice their ideas/concerns at how best to implement the result of a future border poll.

Until the day comes, Northern MPs in the Dáil should only have speaking rights without the ability to vote on matters concerning the present republic.

It would be good too if the Unionist community took on this novel opportunity and sent representatives to the Dáil so they can see first hand how the Irish system of governance works and be assured of their security and culture in a future United Ireland.

The prospect of a United Ireland should engage many ideas on how best to envisage and implement it. This is just one.

Look forward to your thoughts.

rus.
 


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The Federal Republic of Germany (FDR) had from 1949 an official office in Bonn with two civil servants who's jobs were to prepare for the unification of Germany, which eventually happened in 1990.
Ireland should have such an office to do the same and have some civil servants deployed to it from different Government Departments, to gameplay the administrative and practical preparations needed for integrating Northern Ireland into the State.
 

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Make them full members- that should be very interesting....
 

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Given the trajectory of travel towards a United Ireland in the not too distant future, should we consider inviting Northern MPs into the Dáil on an ex-officio basis?

Should there be a United Ireland in the future, it makes sense to me that all Northern MPs should have the right to sit in the Dáil and voice their ideas/concerns at how best to implement the result of a future border poll.

Until the day comes, Northern MPs in the Dáil should only have speaking rights without the ability to vote on matters concerning the present republic.

It would be good too if the Unionist community took on this novel opportunity and sent representatives to the Dáil so they can see first hand how the Irish system of governance works and be assured of their security and culture in a future United Ireland.

The prospect of a United Ireland should engage many ideas on how best to envisage and implement it. This is just one.

Look forward to your thoughts.

rus.
I think there may be UK parliamentary rules about sitting MPs doing that.
 

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Unionist MPs wouldn't do it. It would be divisive and seen as interfering.
 

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An All Ireland Assembly as an Upper House could replace the Seanad. All members freely elected by the entire population of the North/South. This should include all legally living foreigners as well.
 

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There’s already a Unionist Senator. Perhaps the DUP wouldn’t but the likes of Nesbitt could.
Too divisive...it's all or nothing. Best thing to do is to stop talking about a UI and just sit back and watch BoJo destroy the union over the next half decade.
 

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Too divisive...it's all or nothing. Best thing to do is to stop talking about a UI and just sit back and watch BoJo destroy the union over the next half decade.
Which could result in a chaotic UI. My idea would be using the OP to facilitate early talks and thrash out ideas. Have the people from both jurisdictions have the opportunity to shape the debate.
 

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Which could result in a chaotic UI. My idea would be using the OP to facilitate early talks and thrash out ideas. Have the people from both jurisdictions have the opportunity to shape the debate.
That is the sort of thing to do AFTER a successful UI vote.
 

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That is provocative to unionists
Some Unionists. Sometimes provocation is a good thing. It may jolt those provoked into thinking about what sort of future they want. I believe it was Mike Nesbitt and Prof Dornan have said that burying the collective head of Unionism in the sand will result in a UI.
 

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Given the trajectory of travel towards a United Ireland in the not too distant future, should we consider inviting Northern MPs into the Dáil on an ex-officio basis?

Should there be a United Ireland in the future, it makes sense to me that all Northern MPs should have the right to sit in the Dáil and voice their ideas/concerns at how best to implement the result of a future border poll.

Until the day comes, Northern MPs in the Dáil should only have speaking rights without the ability to vote on matters concerning the present republic.

It would be good too if the Unionist community took on this novel opportunity and sent representatives to the Dáil so they can see first hand how the Irish system of governance works and be assured of their security and culture in a future United Ireland.

The prospect of a United Ireland should engage many ideas on how best to envisage and implement it. This is just one.

Look forward to your thoughts.
rus.
No, No, No. More than enough Eirefolk have been preaching AT Catholics. This proposed change would probably encourage even more Staters to preach at us. No thank you.
 

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The original Government of Ireland Act 1920 included mutual speaking rights in each other's assemblies.

There has long been a tradition that 1 Northern Unionist gets appointed to the Seanad and that tradition continues today (Senator Ian Marshall), although that is not the same as sitting/ex Northern MPs/MLAs sitting in the Oireachtas.

I would be okay with reciprocal rights of this kind provided that until unification it is only observer status when it comes to the Dail. In a United Ireland of course everyone would have voting rights.
 

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No, No, No. More than enough Eirefolk have been preaching AT Catholics. This proposed change would probably encourage even more Staters to preach at us. No thank you.
Not sure why you're bringing religion into it but then you speak of little else.
 

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Planning and communication about what a future UI will look like should take place at the earliest opportunity lest we end up with Brexit vote 2.0.
You can't plan what a UI might look like without input from all communities, so it won't happen until a border poll is passed. Only then will the process even begin.

Nationalists can hold a big circle jerk forum in the meantime if they want but it won't mean very much and it would be divisive and even counterproductive.
 

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You can't plan what a UI might look like without input from all communities, so it won't happen until a border poll is passed. Only then will the process even begin.

Nationalists can hold a big circle jerk forum in the meantime if they want but it won't mean very much and it would be divisive and even counterproductive.
There are Unionists out there willing to at least discuss what the future may entail. It would be remiss of us to head to a border poll without some planning and consultation.
 


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