I have respect for your atheism - you have no respect for my faith...........therein lies the difference. I do not launch a thread every day about atheists being out of step with the overwhelming global population because I have respect for the fact that you have your belief i.e. that there is no God. Please, please accept that the other 90-95% of the population thinks otherwise and as such believe it appropriate for CORI to be involved in the sustaining partnership talks.mairteenpak said:This thread is about the clear and obvious discrimination by our government against people who do not believe in Abhramic Gods, as people who do are consulted at length through their Faith Leaders, regarding the direction of Government policy while those who do not have such belief / superstition are not consulted in the same terms.
It seems to trouble some people on this site that people who do not share their religion object to being excluded from consultations that Faith Groups are included in.
CORI are a monitoring body and publish reports on inequity and poverty. They have been somewhat of thorn in the side of this present neo-con orientated government. Their precence at the talks is in recognition of their expertise in this field. There is no religious input whatever.mairteenpak said:Why is it ridiculous?
Is the Sustaining Progress process not worth while?
Why consult one group with a faith position and exclude another?
i don't think he is interested in finding out, he just wants to score points, which is why he starts childish threads like this eveyday. in fact i think he started a thread exactly like this under his previous username pauriceenjackTmesis said:Perhaps instead of calling the proposal ridiculous (it is obviously meant to be ridiculous) perhaps someone could explain to Pauriceen what qualifies a group to be included in "Sustaning Progress"?
non-faith groups are consulted, the vast majority of the groups are non-faith groups!mairteenpak said:
Once again, they are not part of the process because of their faith, they are there because they are monitors of poverty and publish extensively on how poverty can be dealt with. They have built up a very impressive reputation internationally on the subject and have a very important contribution to make at this forum. I'm sure you don't mind the 'have-nots' being heard.mairteenpak said:
Perhaps you could suggest to The Irish Skeptics Society or The Humanist Association of Ireland that they request representation. I doubt they would be refused in all fairness.mairteenpak said:
You do know what the forum is about, don't you? It's about how we divvy out the spoils.imokyrok said:
you think there is no rational discourse at Sustaining Progress? you think the other members don't have such experience?imokyrok said: