Should Queen Elizabeth be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Marcos the black

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Ok, so Putting aside any nationalist dislike you may or may not have for the institution, calls for the Queen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize have been growing (ok.... in the UK) over the last few weeks:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/943294/Queen-Elizabeth-Commonwealth-Nobel-Peace-Prize-candidate-minister-dignitaries

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2018/apr/09/does-queen-deserve-nobel-peace-prize-commonwealth

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/08/thequeenshould-win-nobel-peace-prize-say-ministers-commonwealth/

She's been head of the Commonwealth for the last 60 years, has overseen things like the end of apartheid in South Africa, has made it a multi racial cooperative organisation and has, apparently behind closed doors worked to keep the whole thing together at times when it looked like coming apart.
On the other hand she is head of a state, and an army that has gone to war, sometimes many feel unjustifiably so during her tenure.
What do you think? A bit of nationalistic drum beating by the Brits in the face of Brexit, or does a potential nomination have merit?
 


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Certainly not. She personally decorated the commander of the Paras three months after Bloody Sunday, not the actions of a peacemaker. How can one plausibly claim that mantle when a low intensity war raged in her own realm for half her reign
 

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Certainly not. She personally decorated the commander of the Paras three months after Bloody Sunday, not the actions of a peacemaker. How can one plausibly claim that mantle when a low intensity war raged in her own realm for half her reign
Wasn't she also head of State when "The Troubles" ended?
 

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Wasn't she also head of State when "The Troubles" ended?
Head of state when the empire ended, head of state when the EU venture ended, head of state when the troubles ended but she won't be head of state when the Commonwealth ends.

That's for the next lad to do.
 

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Ok, so Putting aside any nationalist dislike you may or may not have for the institution, calls for the Queen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize have been growing (ok.... in the UK) over the last few weeks:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/943294/Queen-Elizabeth-Commonwealth-Nobel-Peace-Prize-candidate-minister-dignitaries

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2018/apr/09/does-queen-deserve-nobel-peace-prize-commonwealth

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/08/thequeenshould-win-nobel-peace-prize-say-ministers-commonwealth/

She's been head of the Commonwealth for the last 60 years, has overseen things like the end of apartheid in South Africa, has made it a multi racial cooperative organisation and has, apparently behind closed doors worked to keep the whole thing together at times when it looked like coming apart.
On the other hand she is head of a state, and an army that has gone to war, sometimes many feel unjustifiably so during her tenure.
What do you think? A bit of nationalistic drum beating by the Brits in the face of Brexit, or does a potential nomination have merit?
Certainly

"The cornerstones on which peace is founded are, quite simply, respect and understanding for one another."


By upholding justice and the rule of law, and by striving for societies that are fair and offer opportunities for all, we overcome division and find reconciliation, so that the benefits of progress and prosperity may be multiplied and shared.

As members of the Commonwealth family we can find much to be thankful for in the inheritances we have received from those who came before us. Through consensus and cooperation great things have been achieved.

We can find further reward and fulfilment by continuing to collaborate with others in a spirit of goodwill to build a peaceful and abundant future for all Commonwealth citizens.


Her Majesty The Queen
 

Mick Mac

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Certainly not. She personally decorated the commander of the Paras three months after Bloody Sunday, not the actions of a peacemaker. How can one plausibly claim that mantle when a low intensity war raged in her own realm for half her reign
And did they ever treat colonies different? (Sorry to anyone offended by the idea that Ireland was a colony . White people weren't colonised and it's a bit of a rejection of our privileged status but we were really)
 

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Talking points like these are what Marcos and his pals get up to when not focusing on the economy. Back in uni it would have been an L&H motion, everyone in their dickies and dinner jackets.
 

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Head of state when the empire ended, head of state when the EU venture ended, head of state when the troubles ended but she won't be head of state when the Commonwealth ends.

That's for the next lad to do.
The EU venture ended? Wow, that's huge news.. have you told anyone?
 

Mick Mac

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Fine gael have an obsession with showing how modern they are by showing respect to the Queen.

It's based in the idea that the people they (cnag)opposed in 22 didn't like no queen so ergo they were okay with it.

It's also part of the multi cultural past if Ireland. Despite independence there remained a large number of people who felt British and expressed an irish identity in a British way. The delicious irony here.is that people who spent decades calling such types west Brits are now in the fore front demanding others respect all cultural backgrounds as equally valid...well, that means the west Brits as well lads.

So, maybe the west Brit types are actually just expressing a valid way of being Irish.

Okay, let's embrace this. She should be nominated and the ethno nationalists can deal with it.
 

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Of course!

While they're at it Hollywood should give her a Lifetime Achievement award for her contribution to acting too.


Seems appropriate to shower an aged queen with even more titles (above and beyond the titles she already has) before the reaper calls to collect.


:roll:
 

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The EU venture ended? Wow, that's huge news.. have you told anyone?
To venture:to undertake a course of action. It may have escaped you but the British are leaving and so their venture is coming to an end.

It's like when I say my holiday in Spain is over I mean by trip to Spain, not that Spain is over. Thought that was clear enough surely.
 

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Talking points like these are what Marcos and his pals get up to when not focusing on the economy. Back in uni it would have been an L&H motion, everyone in their dickies and dinner jackets.
Don't you mean their Dickies in everyone?

I'm not in any way targeting the Western British community in Ireland who I think are wonderful people.
 

Marcos the black

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To venture:to undertake a course of action. It may have escaped you but the British are leaving and so their venture is coming to an end.

It's like when I say my holiday in Spain is over I mean by trip to Spain, not that Spain is over. Thought that was clear enough surely.
Oooo.. you mean that the British participation in the venture is ending, not that the venture itself is ending. Good. Slight difference there, but I see what you mean.
 

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zero merit..next
 

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Ok, so Putting aside any nationalist dislike you may or may not have for the institution, calls for the Queen to receive the Nobel Peace Prize have been growing (ok.... in the UK) over the last few weeks:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/943294/Queen-Elizabeth-Commonwealth-Nobel-Peace-Prize-candidate-minister-dignitaries

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2018/apr/09/does-queen-deserve-nobel-peace-prize-commonwealth

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/04/08/thequeenshould-win-nobel-peace-prize-say-ministers-commonwealth/

She's been head of the Commonwealth for the last 60 years, has overseen things like the end of apartheid in South Africa, has made it a multi racial cooperative organisation and has, apparently behind closed doors worked to keep the whole thing together at times when it looked like coming apart.
On the other hand she is head of a state, and an army that has gone to war, sometimes many feel unjustifiably so during her tenure.
What do you think? A bit of nationalistic drum beating by the Brits in the face of Brexit, or does a potential nomination have merit?
Em, I think you should read up on the latest developments in South Africa.
 

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Its hard to know what she even contributes to anything, in terms of initiating anything anyway, and its the initiators that should be recognised.

If she has contributed significantly to peaceful change then she certainly has had a far enough reach to receive the award.

Afterall, the award is not given based on spotless character and no past indiscretions. If it was no one would get it.
 


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