Should RTE use the term 'undocumented' to describe illegal Irish immigrants?

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This is an interesting turn of events, in that illegal Irish immigrants in the USA have hitched their wagon to the tens of millions of illegal Central and South Americans, who illegally crossed the border or were smuggled into the country, and most of whom do not hold a passport, and thus are 'undocumented'.

Is it right to use the term 'undocumented' to apply to Irish people who entered America legally with a passport, but who decided to overstay their visa/waiver and remain in the country as illegals?
 


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This is an interesting turn of events, in that illegal Irish immigrants in the USA have hitched their wagon to the tens of millions of illegal Central and South Americans, who illegally crossed the border or were smuggled into the country, and most of whom do not hold a passport, and thus are 'undocumented'.

Is it right to use the term 'undocumented' to apply to Irish people who entered America legally with a passport, but who decided to overstay their visa/waiver and remain in the country as illegals?
No they shouldn't.

This is the height of hypocrisy.

You can actually be born in Ireland and not be entitled to citizenship, and these chancers are demanding to made citizens on the basis that they've managed to evade the law.

The are illegal immigrants.
 

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If RTE were to use the accurate description of 'Illegal Immigrants' to describe those Irish in the USA who slipped in under the net

- then they could hardly avoid using the same term to describe the huge numbers who have made their way into Ireland over the last decade.

A problem the Irish Government turns a blind eye to....:mad:
 

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RTE is using the term used by Foreign Minister Michael Martin.

As goosebump says, it's hypocrisy and the usual oul Irish doublethink when the shoe is on the foot we don't like.
 

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It doesn't really matter; what we need is a vigorous policy of expulsion for all illegal immigrants. We simply cannot afford to have them here anymore.
 

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It's all just semantic hypocrisy, something at which we as a nation are exceptionally good.

Last year I actually heard a guy in a pub who'd come home after living illegally in the States for years give out yards about all the "illegal aliens" in Ireland.

He wasn't stupid and he wasn't joking.
 

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Just because Irish people live illegally in the US; it does not confer on other foreigners the right to live here illegally(allthough some people seem to think that it does). Illegal immigration is a much more important issue here, because the Irish population is so small.
 

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Its one of those irregular conjugations - I an undocumented, you are an illegal alien, he should be deported etc
 

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I think RTE titled it correctly there. Hopefully Martin goes over with the idea of discussing the illegals without really pushing for them, but leaving with the work visas in his pocket, it's a more serious issue.
 

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'Undocumented' - a word meant to convey that the only issue here is that they have no valid visa, overstepping the fact that these people are dispicable criminals that should be shipped back here and shoved into the dole offices with the rest of us Irish and our new friends from thirdworldsville.
 

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This is an interesting turn of events, in that illegal Irish immigrants in the USA have hitched their wagon to the tens of millions of illegal Central and South Americans, who illegally crossed the border or were smuggled into the country, and most of whom do not hold a passport, and thus are 'undocumented'.

Is it right to use the term 'undocumented' to apply to Irish people who entered America legally with a passport, but who decided to overstay their visa/waiver and remain in the country as illegals?
The problems is not the terminology here in Ireland rather than the Irish does not respect and follow their immigration system and procedure and they weeing in the state about their treatment, when you don't follow or respect your immigration rule laid down what do you expect forward ever or backward lies ?
 

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If RTE were to use the accurate description of 'Illegal Immigrants' to describe those Irish in the USA who slipped in under the net

- then they could hardly avoid using the same term to describe the huge numbers who have made their way into Ireland over the last decade.

A problem the Irish Government turns a blind eye to....:mad:
The Governments have not turned a blind eye.

More than 30,000 failed asylum seekers have been given right of residence along with social housing and social welfare.

Meanwhile home help packages are cut back to generate revenue.
 

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The Governments have not turned a blind eye.

More than 30,000 failed asylum seekers have been given right of residence along with social housing and social welfare.

Meanwhile home help packages are cut back to generate revenue.
The law is the law obey it the better, and you get the same treatment elsewhere.

Are you saying ''NO'' tO E.U lead austerity measure ?


:lol:
 

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The problems is not the terminology here in Ireland rather than the Irish does not respect and follow their immigration system and procedure and they weeing in the state about their treatment, when you don't follow or respect your immigration rule laid down what do you expect forward ever or backward lies ?
???
 

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We wouldn't have this issue were it not for world overpopulation; that's the real problem. The rest of it is just a lot of paperwork. :shock:
 

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The Governments have not turned a blind eye.

More than 30,000 failed asylum seekers have been given right of residence along with social housing and social welfare.

Meanwhile home help packages are cut back to generate revenue.
Lack of control and planning on immigration leads to support for far right parties. Look at Greece. People need to have a say in what direction their country is heading and its future.
 
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