Should SF take their Westminister seats?

Dame_Enda

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Should SF take their Westminster seats?

Is it time SF represented their constituents in Westminister, given that a UI is unlikely to happen for the forseeable future?

It should be remembered that the Conscription Crisis happened while the Home Rule party was abstaining for a while from Westminister, and that the issue of partition was being decided while 73 out of 79 Nationalist MPs were absent from Westminister.

By being absent, SF also squanders a golden opportunity to determine the "hard border" question after Brexit.
 
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derryman

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This has been done so many times already.
Can you not see the respect the SNP get in that foreign parliament.
 

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Is it time SF represented their constituents in Westminister, given that a UI is unlikely to happen for the forseeable future?

It should be remembered that the Conscription Crisis happened while the Home Rule party was abstaining for a while from Westminister, and that the issue of partition was being decided while 73 out of 79 Nationalist MPs were absent from Westminister.
Not this one again.

No and no and no.

Let the DUP go down, with the hard Brexiteers.
 

mac tíre

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No. See the treatment of the SNP yesterday for a further reason to the usual ones. Do people like you not tire of asking the same thing over and over?
 

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Is it time SF represented their constituents in Westminister, given that a UI is unlikely to happen for the forseeable future?

It should be remembered that the Conscription Crisis happened while the Home Rule party was abstaining for a while from Westminister, and that the issue of partition was being decided while 73 out of 79 Nationalist MPs were absent from Westminister.
The conscription crisis happened because the Brits were worried about having enough cannon fodder to throw at the front line in their imperialist war with Germany - and it was defeated by a mass general strike - not by the IPP or SF.
 

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No. And how many times is this bloody stupid question going to be asked?
Asked by a poster who thought Donald Trump was going to solve all his problems.

I mean the credibility gap is now as big as the Grand Canyon...
 

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Oh I know Dame Enda is a complete featherhead, but you'd think even he would have noticed one of the many previous threads on the subject.
 

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Oh I know Dame Enda is a complete featherhead, but you'd think even he would have noticed one of the many previous threads on the subject.
He runs like a hare from any of cyps threads patiently outlining what a f*ucking criminal fool Edna drooled over.

Cant even stand by his own idiocy.
 

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Nah. But then again they shouldn't be complete hypocrites by taking part in the elections and taking the English Queen's shilling either.
 

Strawberry

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Nah. But then again they shouldn't be complete hypocrites by taking part in the elections and taking the English Queen's shilling either.
They stand for election on an abstentionist platform, nothing hypocritical about that, if people don't agree they don't have to vote for them. The Westminster MPs don't take a salary either, so a bit of a fail all round from you.
 

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Nah. But then again they shouldn't be complete hypocrites by taking part in the elections and taking the English Queen's shilling either.
You really don't understand politics, do you? Less so the northern variety?

Perhaps you don't realise that it's actually unlawful for an mla to refuse salary? And that this was at the behest of the DUP? Who were hamfistedly trying to prevent SF mlas giving part of the salary to the party? You really didn't realise this, but felt compelled to comment anyway?

Wow.
 
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Is it time SF represented their constituents in Westminister, given that a UI is unlikely to happen for the forseeable future?

It should be remembered that the Conscription Crisis happened while the Home Rule party was abstaining for a while from Westminister, and that the issue of partition was being decided while 73 out of 79 Nationalist MPs were absent from Westminister.

By being absent, SF also squanders a golden opportunity to determine the "hard border" question after Brexit.

:p
 

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Is it time SF represented their constituents in Westminister, given that a UI is unlikely to happen for the forseeable future?

It should be remembered that the Conscription Crisis happened while the Home Rule party was abstaining for a while from Westminister, and that the issue of partition was being decided while 73 out of 79 Nationalist MPs were absent from Westminister.

By being absent, SF also squanders a golden opportunity to determine the "hard border" question after Brexit.
No.
 

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So here's a counterpoint (Not one I necessarily agree with):

These are historic times. The EU Withdrawal bill, once passed, means leaving the EU is law. It is pretty much irreversible, particularly without the caveats the Tory remainer rebels are looking for.

Mike Carey's Lucifer had a great line " You mean to take advantage of the current disorder. But in the process you deepen it into chaos. Chaos as I see it, is the true enemy"

Chaos is SF's friend. So...just show up. Show up and say "We're here as elected representatives of the people of NI, an area of the UK that voted strongly to Remain. We're here to cast their vote". Dare them to kick you out.

Why not do it? What do they lose? If it's just a gesture: Now is the time for grand gestures. Best case: The govt falls, Corbyn grows some balls and makes a decision on the future EU relationship, Corbyn gets in as PM and nationalists in NI will NEVER have a better friend than him.

Because make no mistake: This is not the most challenging time for May. That comes once this bill is passed and the Brexiteers don't have to behave any more. But it's the only time the Remainers can stop it.
 


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