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Should the "Crown" apologize


murf13

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The US has offered compensation to the Japanese for American internment of Japanese Americans during WW2. They have also accepted that the treatment of African Americans throughout their history has been appalling and have spent the last few decades trying to correct and compensate for this wrongdoing.
There has been "truth and reconciliation" in South Africa and the Germans have accepted responsibility for their actions during WW2.

Given these examples of nations standing up and accepting responsibility for their horrific past actions, why then has "the Crown" not had the foresight and more importantly, the decency to admit and take ownership of their past atrocities here and throughout the rest of the world?

Just wondering.
 

picador

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The US has offered compensation to the Japanese for American internment of Japanese Americans during WW2. They have also accepted that the treatment of African Americans throughout their history has been appalling and have spent the last few decades trying to correct and compensate for this wrongdoing.
There has been "truth and reconciliation" in South Africa and the Germans have accepted responsibility for their actions during WW2.

Given these examples of nations standing up and accepting responsibility for their horrific past actions, why then has "the Crown" not had the foresight and more importantly, the decency to admit and take ownership of their past atrocities here and throughout the rest of the world?

Just wondering.
Cos if they admitted liability they would have to pay compensation.
 

ne0ica

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Yes. Its time Britian matured as a nation and apologised for its colonial past in Ireland.
 

nonpartyboy

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A bit like here, they treated their own "subjects" just as badly , unless you were part of the "establishment".
 

splashy

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Should the queen visit Ireland, I think the matter would be unavoidable and some sort of apology would be made.
 
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The US has offered compensation to the Japanese for American internment of Japanese Americans during WW2. They have also accepted that the treatment of African Americans throughout their history has been appalling and have spent the last few decades trying to correct and compensate for this wrongdoing.
There has been "truth and reconciliation" in South Africa and the Germans have accepted responsibility for their actions during WW2.

Given these examples of nations standing up and accepting responsibility for their horrific past actions, why then has "the Crown" not had the foresight and more importantly, the decency to admit and take ownership of their past atrocities here and throughout the rest of the world?

Just wondering.
Or perhaps the French should apologise to us since it was the Norman French who invaded England and then moved on to us. Or, since the Norman French were Viking in origin, why not go after the Skandies for an apology. If you follow this route everybody apologises to everyone else - it's history, different times, different standards - we have enough issues of current importance to be getting on with.
 

Ingersoll

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What good would it do? Most people have bigger problems than remembering old grudges and polishing the chip on the shoulder - get over it.
 

murf13

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Or perhaps the French should apologise to us since it was the Norman French who invaded England and then moved on to us. Or, since the Norman French were Viking in origin, why not go after the Skandies for an apology. If you follow this route everybody apologises to everyone else - it's history, different times, different standards - we have enough issues of current importance to be getting on with.

Perhaps the French should.
May I suggest that you start a thread about it on an appropriate forum.
 

pujols

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We need to stop thinking like victims and acting like victims and take a more positive perspective of where we are as a nation.

Things are not as bad as they seem.

We have a lot to be proud of and we should focus on that.
 

SlabMurphy

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Isn't it time Ireland matured as a nation and stopped going for gold at the Victim's Olympics?
Ah yes, typical of a centoaph hugger. These are the very same people who wear imitation poppy's for months on end trying to delude themsleves that they bravely 'civilised' the world by massacring the Moari's, Fuzzy Wuzzy's etc with the help of the rapid fire Gattling gun and the best of british pluck :rolleyes:.
 
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Perhaps the French should.
May I suggest that you start a thread about it on an appropriate forum.
I take it that means you didn't particularly value my contribution - but, whether you like it or not, them's the facts!!
 

sandar

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The US has offered compensation to the Japanese for American internment of Japanese Americans during WW2. They have also accepted that the treatment of African Americans throughout their history has been appalling and have spent the last few decades trying to correct and compensate for this wrongdoing.
There has been "truth and reconciliation" in South Africa and the Germans have accepted responsibility for their actions during WW2.

Given these examples of nations standing up and accepting responsibility for their horrific past actions, why then has "the Crown" not had the foresight and more importantly, the decency to admit and take ownership of their past atrocities here and throughout the rest of the world?

Just wondering.
blair APOLOGISED FOR THE IRISH FAMINE A DECDE OR MORE AGO....CAMERON APLOGISED FOR BLODDY SUNDAY..THE BRIST HAVE APOLOGISED FOR SLAVERY...ETC
 
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Ah yes, typical of a centoaph hugger :rolleyes: These are the very same people who wear imitation poppy's for months on end trying to delude themsleves that they bravely 'civilised' the world by massacring the Moari's, Fuzzy Wuzzy's etc with the help of the rapid fire Gattling gun and the best of british pluck.
Not that I approve of this, but it took a bit more pluck than blowing women and children to bits!
 

murf13

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blair APOLOGISED FOR THE IRISH FAMINE A DECDE OR MORE AGO....CAMERON APLOGISED FOR BLODDY SUNDAY..THE BRIST HAVE APOLOGISED FOR SLAVERY...ETC
Half arsed apologies.

Ps. I did say "the crown"
 

picador

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Isn't it time Ireland matured as a nation and stopped going for gold at the Victim's Olympics?
Is that your way of saying Britain should evade responsibility for its actions throughout the globe?
 

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I amsimply curious as to why Irish people imagine they have suffered so terribly, terribly much that they deserve endless apologies.

An Irishman:

 

Paisley_Buddy

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Yes. Its time Britian matured as a nation and apologised for its colonial past in Ireland.
I hope you mean the politicians.

Anything untoward done in Ireland was done by the ruling/landed classes , who looked after their own financial interests as always.

I was born at the end of the 80s working class , on the other hand , and will be apologising for nothing.
 

cogol

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An apology, formal or informal, would definitely go a long way to help us 'mature', as someone put it.
 
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