Should the prisoners work for their accomodation?



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Bugger off and give a synopsis of your own points of view and opinions before seeking others comments.

Time to move the you can start a thread rule up to 250.
 

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What's your opinion, it being your thread and all?
 

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Much as I would like to say yes what if they don't. Will we put them in tents? Certainly they should be obliged to do some work if low risk category. All contraband should be seized including tv and play station. Only good behaviour merits tv in cell. No more softly softly on drugs in jail. This will lead to chaos for a while and prison officers need to be supported during this phase but eventually we will have clean prisons.
 

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I think a better question is, should we really be putting so many people in prison. Especially for things like non-payment of fines or petty shop lifting. I would think prison should be reserved for truly dangerous criminals and Sean Fitzpatrick et al.
 

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They shouldn't be required to work, but they should have the option first to train for a job, and then to take up that job while still in prison.

There are a great many more modern jobs that can be done remotely which are suitable for setting up adjacent to prisons, and could have a secure and non-secure side, so that prisoners could continue their job for a while after they are freed - call centres and mail-order dispatch centres come to mind.

Bear in mind that the typical person being released from Irish prisons is an illiterate heroin addict. What chance do they have of steering clear of further crime? Prison work should be totally voluntary, but attract full salaries, and be available to all prisoners who have completed the required education courses which should also be available. Prisoners should also have at least weekly drug tests, and failing one would mean losing their job.

Prisoners should clearly understand that any hope of early release - including simultaneous serving of multiple sentences - depends on them demonstrating that they can hold down a job, and therefore avoid crime, once released.
 

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They shouldn't be required to work, but they should have the option first to train for a job, and then to take up that job while still in prison.

There are a great many more modern jobs that can be done remotely which are suitable for setting up adjacent to prisons, and could have a secure and non-secure side, so that prisoners could continue their job for a while after they are freed - call centres and mail-order dispatch centres come to mind.

Bear in mind that the typical person being released from Irish prisons is an illiterate heroin addict. What chance do they have of steering clear of further crime? Prison work should be totally voluntary, but attract full salaries, and be available to all prisoners who have completed the required education courses which should also be available. Prisoners should also have at least weekly drug tests, and failing one would mean losing their job.

Prisoners should clearly understand that any hope of early release - including simultaneous serving of multiple sentences - depends on them demonstrating that they can hold down a job, and therefore avoid crime, once released.

In an ideal world maybe but...........
 

sheehan

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They shouldn't be required to work, but they should have the option first to train for a job, and then to take up that job while still in prison.

There are a great many more modern jobs that can be done remotely which are suitable for setting up adjacent to prisons, and could have a secure and non-secure side, so that prisoners could continue their job for a while after they are freed - call centres and mail-order dispatch centres come to mind.

Bear in mind that the typical person being released from Irish prisons is an illiterate heroin addict. What chance do they have of steering clear of further crime? Prison work should be totally voluntary, but attract full salaries, and be available to all prisoners who have completed the required education courses which should also be available. Prisoners should also have at least weekly drug tests, and failing one would mean losing their job.

Prisoners should clearly understand that any hope of early release - including simultaneous serving of multiple sentences - depends on them demonstrating that they can hold down a job, and therefore avoid crime, once released.
Surely what you suggest is a better scenario (training), but will that work in real terms? There are costs too.

I don't know much in this area. I suppose if the cost of keeping a prisoner is higher than the potential economic damage to the society if this person is let free, then it makes sense to free them or let them work for the difference at least.
 

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along with prison, convicted criminals should be put on public display so they may experience the disapproving gaze of law abiding citizens. something like an electronic stocks... a facebook for felons.
 

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I think a better question is, should we really be putting so many people in prison. Especially for things like non-payment of fines or petty shop lifting. I would think prison should be reserved for truly dangerous criminals and Sean Fitzpatrick et al.
But Seanie is from the right area, he went to the right school, is a member of the right golf club you can't send men like that to jail........;)
 

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along with prison, convicted criminals should be put on public display so they may experience the disapproving gaze of law abiding citizens. something like an electronic stocks... a facebook for felons.
Well that may have an affect on the ordinary joe soap up for failure to pay the TV license fee. Doubt it'd have the required on Ger dundon.
 


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