Should the voting age in NI be lowered to 16 ?

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discussion on Nolan earlier re voting age .....

The voting age SHOULD be lowered to 16 – and this is why
The voting age SHOULD be lowered to 16 – and this is why | Metro News



That scrote "Puke Dudley Edwards" was on and within seconds managed to start slagging off the Shinners :roll: ... she/it really is sooooo incredibly fuked up its hilarious :p lmao..

She of course was totally against it .. basically said kids were stupid :roll: lol .... I would say she's against it because nationalists would generally be for it !!

One chap who was on stated a good point .. he said if you can pay taxes (& join army, get married etc..) then you should get a vote .. no taxation without representation..

what do youse think ?
 


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As a southerner I'm against votes for 16 yr olds. They are not fully developed emotionally and are prone to idealism that is not always possible in politics.
 

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As a southerner I'm against votes for 16 yr olds. They are not fully developed emotionally and are prone to idealism that is not always possible in politics.
ok Ruth :lol: lol...

I dunno .. if they can pay taxes, they should be able to vote.....

BTW - you cant stop a 50 year old moron from voting ....
 

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The age of criminal responsibility in Northern ireland is ten years old.

If you can be brought before a court and charged with an offence at the age of ten, I see no reason why you should not also be deemed to have the mental capacity to vote. petunia
 

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As a southerner I'm against votes for 16 yr olds. They are not fully developed emotionally and are prone to idealism that is not always possible in politics.
Same could be said about a lot of adults. If 16 is old enough to leave school and work and pay taxes it should old enough to vote, so they should either lower the voting age or raise the school leaving age.
 

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Same could be said about a lot of adults. If 16 is old enough to leave school and work and pay taxes it should old enough to vote, so they should either lower the voting age or raise the school leaving age.

Indeed, there needs to be some correlation to what age is deem appropriate to vote, work, drink etc... moi wonders if it is lowered to 16 what way ANS will votail...
 

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Same could be said about a lot of adults. If 16 is old enough to leave school and work and pay taxes it should old enough to vote, so they should either lower the voting age or raise the school leaving age.
My 11 year old pays a lot of tax and VAT on things she buys.
 

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No, most definitely not, Ulster is totally unsuited to the level of democracy it already has without making things significantly worse. If anything we should be considering raising the age to vote to twenty eight.
 

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Same could be said about a lot of adults. If 16 is old enough to leave school and work and pay taxes it should old enough to vote, so they should either lower the voting age or raise the school leaving age.
Just think how much better the country would be if only people of proven moral character, can show that have knowledge of political affairs and above a certain IQ were able to vote?
 

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My 11 year old pays a lot of tax and VAT on things she buys.
silly point :roll:

Paying Income tax & National insurance is a tad different from a child paying vat on sweets, (with money given to her by someone who has presumably already paid income tax & NI)


Wars have been fought for less.....
 
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No, most definitely not, Ulster is totally unsuited to the level of democracy it already has without making things significantly worse. If anything we should be considering raising the age to vote to twenty eight.
ffs Ratio :? lol
 

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Do sheep live that long ?
 

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ffs Ratio :? lol
I'm against democracy in the case of Ulster- what Ulster needs is a dictator, one both rigorously just and at the same time sternly firm. Outside of one coming along the place will never come close to it's potential.
 

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I'm against democracy in the case of Ulster- what Ulster needs is a dictator, one both rigorously just and at the same time sternly firm. Outside of one coming along the place will never come close to it's potential.
a novel idea but I dont think it will happen ......

Mind you, Snarlene was giving it a go there for a while .. and just look how that went :roll: lol
 

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discussion on Nolan earlier re voting age .....

The voting age SHOULD be lowered to 16 – and this is why
The voting age SHOULD be lowered to 16 – and this is why | Metro News



That scrote "Puke Dudley Edwards" was on and within seconds managed to start slagging off the Shinners :roll: ... she/it really is sooooo incredibly fuked up its hilarious :p lmao..

She of course was totally against it .. basically said kids were stupid :roll: lol .... I would say she's against it because nationalists would generally be for it !!

One chap who was on stated a good point .. he said if you can pay taxes (& join army, get married etc..) then you should get a vote .. no taxation without representation..

what do youse think ?
Overwhelming majority of 16 to 18s are still in education, I'd hazard a guess that the tax take from 16-18 is pretty insignificant.
You mention joining the army, I'd rather see minimum age for joining armed forces increased to 18, although I don't think under 18s are allowed in war zone.
18 is minimum age for alcohol consumption so seems fair enough for voting. Undoubtedly younger voting age would help left of centre parties, as the saying goes "if you're not socialist when you're young you have no heart, if you're still a socialist when you're older you have no brain.
 

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a novel idea but I dont think it will happen ......

Mind you, Snarlene was giving it a go there for a while .. and just look how that went :roll: lol
I said one rigorously just. Honestly though we have enough people voting so lack the maturity to do so without adding more. 16 year olds are much more likely to be head the ball Fleggers or Dissos than people who are 26 no mind 36.
 

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You can apply to the BA at 15 years and 7 months, but you can't vote for another 2 and a half years. This is odd.

Basically citizens can work, pay tax and put their life on the line for their country, but have no say in how their country is operated. It's preposterous.

Citizens are mature enough to pay tax but deemed immature as to having a say where it goes.

It would also allow citizens to be more politically mature/aware from an early/earlier age.

No doubt there are arguments against but theloner thinks the pros heavily outweigh them. Kudos to Wales agus Scotland.
 

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Overwhelming majority of 16 to 18s are still in education, I'd hazard a guess that the tax take from 16-18 is pretty insignificant.
You mention joining the army, I'd rather see minimum age for joining armed forces increased to 18, although I don't think under 18s are allowed in war zone.
18 is minimum age for alcohol consumption so seems fair enough for voting. Undoubtedly younger voting age would help left of centre parties, as the saying goes "if you're not socialist when you're young you have no heart, if you're still a socialist when you're older you have no brain.
yeah maybe there's validity in the idea of an "all or nothing" approach...

ie.. if you can pay taxes, join the army & get married at 16 then you can vote ... if you are exempt from taxes & cant join the army until you're 18 then leave it as it is .....

The facts remains though that presently, you can do all of the above at 16 EXCEPT vote.. .. surely thats not right !!
 


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