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Should we tolerate the Halal Slaughter method for Irish farm animals?


Bobcolebrooke

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Should we tolerate the barbaric Halal Slaughter method for Irish farm animals?

Should we tolerate the barbaric Halal Slaughter method for Irish farm animals?

The technology of the captive bolt gun allows animals to be slaughtered painlessly

Instead of using this method Irish Farm animals are killed by slashing their throats and bleeding them to death for five minutes inflicting appalling cruelty.

Surely decency requires we suspend this practice? If you did this to your cat or dog on your from lawn you would probably do to jail for years.

Have a look if you can bear it. The first shots indicates bolt gun slaughter. The next is slashing a bovine in the throat and the slow painful death of a terrified animal.


Halal Slaughter - YouTube

If you are prepared to tolerate it you should be prepared to watch it! Surely some non Muslims would buy our beef if it was humanely slaughtered? There must be a market for ethically slaughtered beef?

Our Law forbids slaughtering an animal unless it has been rendered unconcious first with an approved instrument.

Exceptions are made for Jewish or Muslim Slaughter men provided the meat is for consumption by Jews or Muslims!



15.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, no person shall in a slaughter-house, slaughter or render unconscious for the purpose of slaughter an animal of any particular kind by any means or in any manner otherwise than by means of an instrument which is an approved instrument in relation to animals of that particular kind and is in good working order and is used in the approved manner.

(2) Nothing in this section shall apply to or render unlawful—

(a) the slaughter of any animal for consumption as food by Jews, where such slaughter is carried out according to the Jewish method by a Jew who is for the time being approved in that behalf by the Chief Rabbi of the Irish Free State for the time being or in his absence by the Board of Shechita of the Jewish Community of Dublin,

or

(b) the slaughter of any animal for consumption as food by Mahommedans, where such slaughter is carried out according to the Mahommedan method by a Mahommedan, or


(c) the slaughter of any animal by any means in the course of an inquiry, investigation, or experiment made by direction of the Minister for Agriculture under this Part of this Act.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1935/en/act/pub/0045/print.html#sec7

It would appear that it is illegal to supply Kosher meat or Halal meat to no jews or muslims, as the meat could not comply with this act if it were so supplied.
 
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greenbacks

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Horrific and it should never be tolerated..this is appalling cruelty.
 

Boy M5

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Yes we should.
 

Bea C

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No, we shouldn't.
 

LDF

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You'd probably go to jail if you shot your cat or dog on your front lawn with a bolt gun.
 

Bobcolebrooke

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I am all for eating meat but the least we owe to the animals we eat, or that we kill for others to eat, is a painless humane death!
 

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I am all for eating meat but the least we owe to the animals we eat, or that we kill for others to eat, is a painless humane death!
A "humane" death for an animal? What about hospice care for terminally ill animals?
 

KEYHOLE KATE

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No, these are Irish cattle and it is not in OUR cultural tradition to inflict cruelty on dumb beasts. Muslims have a loathing for dogs too but that doesn't mean we have to forfeit the company of a domesticated animal to the beliefs of people who originated in much hotter parts of the world. Both Muslims and Jews abhor pork for reasons which may have been based on the incompatibility of pig-meat and torrid temperatures before refrigeration became common.
 

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What would this achieve? Muslim's would just import halal slaughtered meat which means we'd have money needlessly exiting the economy.
 

Bobcolebrooke

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What would this achieve? Muslim's would just import halal slaughtered meat which means we'd have money needlessly exiting the economy.
Some one else would buy our humanely slaughtered beef. They keep telling us it is some of the best quality in the World?

There are hundreds of millions of people who eat beef who are not muslim.
 

Windowshopper

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Some onel else would buy our humanely slaughtered beef. They keep telling us it is some of the best quality in the World?

There are hundreds of millions of people who eat beef who are not muslim.
So. It's not an one or the other decision. It just seems to be the case of needlessly picking on Muslims for the benefit of cows and sheep.
 
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So. It's not an one or the other decision. It just seems to be the case of needlessly picking on Muslims for the benefit of cows and sheep.
No - what he has pointed out is that your argument is as economically unsound as it is morally bankrupt.
 

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Muslims can eat as much Halal meat as they want. Just don't allow it to be killed in Ireland
But why? Why are you going after a religious practice which does not effect your daily life or that of any other person in any meaningful way?
 
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I'd say yes , the customer should get what the customer wants. The fact that the customer still follows a religion that hasnt had a reformation yet isnt really our problem
 

Bobcolebrooke

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I'd say yes , the customer should get what the customer wants. The fact that the customer still follows a religion that hasnt had a reformation yet isnt really our problem
Can we not develop the market for for humanely slaughtered beef?
 

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