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Silvio Berlusconi sentenced to one year in prison over wire taps. Don't be silly of course he's still free.


Sync

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Silvio Berlusconi sentenced to one year in prison over wire taps. Don't be silly of course he's still free.

"Hello God it's me Sync. What does Silvio have to do to actually get landed behind bars?"

Silvio today was sentenced to a year for ordering a police wiretap of a political rival to be leaked and published in Silvio's own brother's newspaper. He's already free on appeal from another one year sentence for tax fraud, he's got 2 more verdicts (On hiring a child hooker and more tax fraud), and of course used his shield of PM to exploit statutes of limitation in escaping stints in jail for lying under oath.

BBC News - Silvio Berlusconi convicted over Italy wiretap

An Italian court on Thursday sentenced former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi to a one-year jail term for making public the taped contents of a confidential phone call in a case related to a 2005 banking scandal
Exactly what does he have to do to get jailed? What do the Italian people have to be shown to make them stop voting for the guy? He's a recidivist criminal who is clearly only standing for PM in order to stay out of prison.
 

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It's all about a compromised judiciary don't you know, they stitched 'im up like a kippah, honest guv'nor.
 

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What about Bertosconi ?

The Irish legal system is keeping him from imprisonment.
 

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Somebody needs to take Sync's OP, and amend it to specify FFinished, Bertoconi, Meehaul, Pravda, and the Sindo.
 

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"Hello God it's me Sync. What does Silvio have to do to actually get landed behind bars?"

Silvio today was sentenced to a year for ordering a police wiretap of a political rival to be leaked and published in Silvio's own brother's newspaper. He's already free on appeal from another one year sentence for tax fraud, he's got 2 more verdicts (On hiring a child hooker and more tax fraud), and of course used his shield of PM to exploit statutes of limitation in escaping stints in jail for lying under oath.

BBC News - Silvio Berlusconi convicted over Italy wiretap



Exactly what does he have to do to get jailed? What do the Italian people have to be shown to make them stop voting for the guy? He's a recidivist criminal who is clearly only standing for PM in order to stay out of prison.
Be caught in bed with the proverbial dead girl or live boy?

Even then, they'll put him under house arrest in Bunga-Bunga Prison.....
 

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"Hello God it's me Sync. What does Silvio have to do to actually get landed behind bars?"

Silvio today was sentenced to a year for ordering a police wiretap of a political rival to be leaked and published in Silvio's own brother's newspaper. He's already free on appeal from another one year sentence for tax fraud, he's got 2 more verdicts (On hiring a child hooker and more tax fraud), and of course used his shield of PM to exploit statutes of limitation in escaping stints in jail for lying under oath.

BBC News - Silvio Berlusconi convicted over Italy wiretap



Exactly what does he have to do to get jailed? What do the Italian people have to be shown to make them stop voting for the guy? He's a recidivist criminal who is clearly only standing for PM in order to stay out of prison.
At least the Italians get their corrupt political class to court, in Ireland we give them huge pensions and a column in the star.
 

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At least the Italians get their corrupt political class to court, in Ireland we give them huge pensions and a column in the star.
With former FF'ers writing in the Star, and the Sindo, and former Ponzi Democrats writing in the Indo....

you could say....

Ireland's useless failed politicians....they have not gone away, ya know.
 

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The voters in that country are extraordinary. The Irish electorate looks entirely rational in its decision-making by comparison.
"Rational Irish electorate" :lol: One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for bona fida stupidity you can't beat the Irish electorate.
 

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"Rational Irish electorate" :lol: One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for bona fida stupidity you can't beat the Irish electorate.
That sort of post gets on my wick. There is nothing remotely like the Italian levels of graft and corruption in Ireland. They are on a different planet. However for real bona fide stupidity nothing beats the whiners and hysterics on Irish political message boards.
 

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Mr Berlusconi is likely to appeal and will remain free in the meantime. (BBC)
Is the only reason he is still free the fact he can continually pay lawyers to appeal everything indefinitely? Surely the judiciary at some point have the power to call a halt and send him straight to jail?
 

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Is the only reason he is still free the fact he can continually pay lawyers to appeal everything indefinitely? Surely the judiciary at some point have the power to call a halt and send him straight to jail?
that's Italy for you, the electorate only gets what it deserves.
 

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Is the only reason he is still free the fact he can continually pay lawyers to appeal everything indefinitely? Surely the judiciary at some point have the power to call a halt and send him straight to jail?
The way it's gone in the past:
Silvio gets accused.
Silvio gets convicted
Silvio appeals
Silvio loses appeal
Silvio appeals again
Silvio becomes PM
Silvio waits out statute of limitations. If there is no limitations, put some through the books.
Loses election.
Silvio gets accused

Repeat ad nauseum.
 

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The way it's gone in the past:
Silvio gets accused.
Silvio gets convicted
Silvio appeals
Silvio loses appeal
Silvio appeals again
Silvio becomes PM
Silvio waits out statute of limitations. If there is no limitations, put some through the books.
Loses election.
Silvio gets accused

Repeat ad nauseum.
You have to admit though, that it's a unique way of dealing with the criminal justice process. Most of us would have given up after the appeals fail. It takes a certain something to go to the lengths of getting elected PM to stay out of prison.

I know in Ireland in the 1917 by-election we had "put him in to get him out" as an election slogan but Berlusconi's seems to be "put him hin to keep him out".
 

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Voter rationality is not straightforward. Remember that people in democracies have had it drilled into them that it is vital to vote no matter what. That idea in itself is irrational since there is absolutely no reason to vote if you see nothing you like on the ballot. The only rational way to approach an election is to vote in such as way as you think will do the least harm/most good for you or for society at large. If you are an Italian and you know that the left in Southern Italy has spent 20 years in bed with the mafia and the right is Silvio Berlusconi, how is it more rational to vote one way or another? Under those circumstances it seems that the most rational thing to do is to vote for a protest candidate or not vote at all.
 

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The way it's gone in the past:
Silvio gets accused.
Silvio gets convicted
Silvio appeals
Silvio loses appeal
Silvio appeals again
Silvio becomes PM
Silvio waits out statute of limitations. If there is no limitations, put some through the books.
Loses election.
Silvio gets accused

Repeat ad nauseum.
Bertosconi gets accussed.
End of story.

Our crooks are smarter. (unfortunately).
 
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