Sindo poll says majority want Ireland to default

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A poll in tomorrow's Sunday Independent shows a majority of the public wants the state to default on debts to bondholders.

According to the Sindo 57% favour a default.

Other questions the Sindo asked reveal that 66% oppose the minimum wage being dropped by EUR1, 60% oppose child benefit being cut and 55% oppose a EUR100 property tax.

The Sindo polled 500 people by phone.
 


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Shock & Horror - majority don't want their incomes cut
 

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While I agree with the result..It's the Sindo...'nuff said!!
 

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It's a Sindo poll. Who would put in much faith in that?
 

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The Sindo like AIB is nearly bust so they throw out a low finance tele poll...yawn
 

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A poll in tomorrow's Sunday Independent shows a majority of the public wants the state to default on debts to bondholders.

According to the Sindo 57% favour a default.

Other questions the Sindo asked reveal that 66% oppose the minimum wage being dropped by EUR1, 60% oppose child benefit being cut and 55% oppose a EUR100 property tax.

The Sindo polled 500 people by phone.


The Irish people have a firm grasp of economic reality and know what is in Ireland's long term best interest,

.... unlike their government.

The Irish people also show that they are willing to put the overall good of their country ahead of self-gain.

..... unlike their government.
 

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It's a Sindo poll. Who would put in much faith in that?
Notably no question was asked as to whether Fianna Fail TD's and their partners in the Green Party should default on those parts of the Budget as it relates to punishing the unwaged and those in low-paid employment in order to satisfy our new masters.
 

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A poll in tomorrow's Sunday Independent shows a majority of the public wants the state to default on debts to bondholders.

According to the Sindo 57% favour a default.

Other questions the Sindo asked reveal that 66% oppose the minimum wage being dropped by EUR1, 60% oppose child benefit being cut and 55% oppose a EUR100 property tax.

The Sindo polled 500 people by phone.
So 43% think we should honour our debts.

34% earn the minimum wage.

40% don't have children eligible for state assistance.

And 45% of people live in rented accomodation or else have paid off their mortgage.
 

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A poll in tomorrow's Sunday Independent shows a majority of the public wants the state to default on debts to bondholders.

According to the Sindo 57% favour a default.

Other questions the Sindo asked reveal that 66% oppose the minimum wage being dropped by EUR1, 60% oppose child benefit being cut and 55% oppose a EUR100 property tax.

The Sindo polled 500 people by phone.
Sounds like a winning platform in the coming election.
 

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Not surprising really -

there is a lot of ill-informed comment going around about defaulting - a lot of folks are under the assumption that if we default - it means we just walk away from the debts 100% and bobs yer uncle everything will be grand again.

McWilliams current populist drive on this has a lot to answer for - he was speaking in a local town recently and he really got the mob going about defaulting.

He was using Argentina as a model - they defaulted in 2001 and everything has been grand since then according to his version - I challenged him on the fact that since the default the Argentinians have not been able to borrow one red cent on the international money markets - the only bonds they have been able to sell internationally have been 400 million which Comrade Chavez bought in 2006 and the fact that they have been steadily paying back in 80odd billion they defaulted on in 2001 - in fact its nearly all paid back - in the end they will have paid nearly 85% of it back and the IMF - he had no reply and tried to laugh it off saying I was the first person in one these talks to come back at him with facts...........yeah yeah........told him the same regarding the Russian default and others and that the only nations to totallly default were Zimbabwe and the like

I dont think people understand that nobody walks away from debts 100%
and that the cuts and the like were going to be needed regardless
 

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Not surprising really -

there is a lot of ill-informed comment going around about defaulting - a lot of folks are under the assumption that if we default - it means we just walk away from the debts 100% and bobs yer uncle everything will be grand again.

McWilliams current populist drive on this has a lot to answer for - he was speaking in a local town recently and he really got the mob going about defaulting.

He was using Argentina as a model - they defaulted in 2001 and everything has been grand since then according to his version - I challenged him on the fact that since the default the Argentinians have not been able to borrow one red cent on the international money markets - the only bonds they have been able to sell internationally have been 400 million which Comrade Chavez bought in 2006 and the fact that they have been steadily paying back in 80odd billion they defaulted on in 2001 - in fact its nearly all paid back - in the end they will have paid nearly 85% of it back and the IMF - he had no reply and tried to laugh it off saying I was the first person in one these talks to come back at him with facts...........yeah yeah........told him the same regarding the Russian default and others and that the only nations to totallly default were Zimbabwe and the like

I dont think people understand that nobody walks away from debts 100%
and that the cuts and the like were going to be needed regardless

I don't think people are actually calling for us to default on our actual soverign debt, the actual money borrowed by government for government expenditure.

Instead they want the government to let the bank debt go as government has no obligation to honor this in the first instance.

You are attempting to mislead people here by saying that we would have to pay this debt anyway, we most certainly would not be under any obligation to pay any of the bank debt. Leaving the bank debt go would not even affect our capacity to borrow on international markets. If the ECB wants to save our banks for the Euro's sake then let them do it, but please don't charge the Irish taxpayer for it.
 

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34% earn above the minimum wage while 66% are on it :lol:
Of course you are right Dave, sorry for the baiting.

Could this be true though?

And if it is, what do you think it might mean in the context of statistics showing that a much lower figure is supposed to be right?
 

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I don't think people are actually calling for us to default on our actual soverign debt, the actual money borrowed by government for government expenditure.

Instead they want the government to let the bank debt go as government has no obligation to honor this in the first instance.

You are attempting to mislead people here by saying that we would have to pay this debt anyway, we most certainly would not be under any obligation to pay any of the bank debt. Leaving the bank debt go would not even affect our capacity to borrow on international markets. If the ECB wants to save our banks for the Euro's sake then let them do it, but please don't charge the Irish taxpayer for it.
good post agree 100%
 

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Sir Tony's toilet paper

Does DC/PIE get a retainer every week for promoting The Sunday Indo, two threads in the last hour on whats in tommorows Sir Reillys rag. If a normal poster did that they would get their thread closed saying one already exsists...etc... Less of The Sindo promotion Dave, most of the posters in here have come to realise that The Sindo would give their bottom a rash if they used it for its true purpose.
 


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