Sinn Fein add insult to Gaza's injuries.

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One of the things that I always found admirable about Sinn Fein was their support for the Palestinian cause. Now it seems they have started to cosy up to Likud, a party that makes the 1980s DUP on a bad day look like a gang of cuddly teddy bears in comparsion, and by doing so causing feelings of hurt and betrayal among the long suffering martyric Palestinian people who had previously looked to the Shinners as their friends in Ireland.

Palestinians voice concerns about Sinn Féin Likud meetings - The Irish News

“We've been disappointed, to say the least, about Sinn Féin’s meeting with a Zionist party whose members have explicitly defended and supported hate crimes committed against the Palestinians of Gaza, especially in 2014,” said Mr Eid.

“The reason why we are feeling Sinn Féin should not meet with Israeli parties that are part and parcel of Israel's multi-tired system of oppression is that we thought Sinn Féin was on our side, the same way it stood on the side of the oppressed South Africans and heeded their call for a blanket boycott of the Apartheid system.”
 


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One of the things that I always found admirable about Sinn Fein was their support for the Palestinian cause. Now it seems they have started to cosy up to Likud, a party that makes the 1980s DUP on a bad day look like a gang of cuddly teddy bears in comparsion, and by doing so causing feelings of hurt and betrayal among the long suffering martyric Palestinian people who had previously looked to the Shinners as their friends in Ireland.

Palestinians voice concerns about Sinn Féin Likud meetings - The Irish News

“We've been disappointed, to say the least, about Sinn Féin’s meeting with a Zionist party whose members have explicitly defended and supported hate crimes committed against the Palestinians of Gaza, especially in 2014,” said Mr Eid.

“The reason why we are feeling Sinn Féin should not meet with Israeli parties that are part and parcel of Israel's multi-tired system of oppression is that we thought Sinn Féin was on our side, the same way it stood on the side of the oppressed South Africans and heeded their call for a blanket boycott of the Apartheid system.”
Oh the shinners can sway with the breeze all right, when it suits their purposes.

Voted for the bank guarantee, now against it.

Voted against eu on every ocassion but now pro eu where Apple is concerned.

The fact that they are now cosying up to the most right wing group in Israel should not come as a surprise to anyone.
 

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Just by meeting with the representatives of the Israeli Government does not mean they are endorsing the policies of Likud. No?
 

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In all fairness to SF they always kept the Palestinian cause fairly high up on their agenda.
They hardly secretly support the Israel now.
 

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Just by meeting with the representatives of the Israeli Government does not mean they are endorsing the policies of Likud. No?
This was a business meeting; are not the Shinners supposed to be supporting BDS?
 

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One of the things that I always found admirable about Sinn Fein was their support for the Palestinian cause. Now it seems they have started to cosy up to Likud, a party that makes the 1980s DUP on a bad day look like a gang of cuddly teddy bears in comparsion, and by doing so causing feelings of hurt and betrayal among the long suffering martyric Palestinian people who had previously looked to the Shinners as their friends in Ireland.

Palestinians voice concerns about Sinn Féin Likud meetings - The Irish News

“We've been disappointed, to say the least, about Sinn Féin’s meeting with a Zionist party whose members have explicitly defended and supported hate crimes committed against the Palestinians of Gaza, especially in 2014,” said Mr Eid.

“The reason why we are feeling Sinn Féin should not meet with Israeli parties that are part and parcel of Israel's multi-tired system of oppression is that we thought Sinn Féin was on our side, the same way it stood on the side of the oppressed South Africans and heeded their call for a blanket boycott of the Apartheid system.”
SF party position is to support a two state solution.

Your average hardcore Shinner thinks their position is to support getting rid of all the jews from the region.
 

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Indeed up to a point but to a point enough to embaress them genuinely, outside of wanting though a 32 county Irish Republic there hasnt been much else that has bound Irish Republicans together though. When I was a Loyalist I used to call Republicans Green Zionists.
Indeed, while Irish republicans have been guilty of some appalling crimes, they for the most part managed to stay away from attempts at ethnic cleansing.
 

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Indeed, while Irish republicans have been guilty of some appalling crimes, they for the most part managed to stay away from attempts at ethnic cleansing.
Let's try to leave stuff to do with the Troubles out of this thread.

There are loads of things the Shinners should be criticized on, this being one of them, but most of the time their enemies on here rather than raise valid issues against them keep on preforming cyber necrophilia on various corpses from the Troubles.
 

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Indeed, while Irish republicans have been guilty of some appalling crimes, they for the most part managed to stay away from attempts at ethnic cleansing.
jesus, talk to the Protestants of East Tyrone about that

or indeed, after the Civil War, the Protestants of the 26 counties...just where did they all go?
 

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jesus, talk to the Protestants of East Tyrone about that

or indeed, after the Civil War, the Protestants of the 26 counties...just where did they all go?
When their was no longer any material advantage many of them converted to the True Church, if you look at Ulster you will find a LOT more Catholics with Ulster Scot names than you will Protestants with Gaelic names this is because even with gross material disadvantage attached to it Catholicism was a lot more attractive than Proddy misery. This is the main reason Freemasonry revived the Orange Order in the latter part of the 19 th century- the other was to halt the growth of Trade Unionism. Anyway this is not the thread for this discussion....Any thoughts on the Shinners cosying up to Likud in the Twenty First Century?
 

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Indeed up to a point but to a point enough to embaress them genuinely, outside of wanting though a 32 county Irish Republic there hasnt been much else that has bound Irish Republicans together though. When I was a Loyalist I used to call Republicans Green Zionists.
Clearly unionism is closer to zionism :)

 

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jesus, talk to the Protestants of East Tyrone about that

or indeed, after the Civil War, the Protestants of the 26 counties...just where did they all go?
Many left after the Free State was established feeling no connection to the new State. Some were driven out/harassed during the civil war, especially in the Munster Republic as they were assumed to be pro-treaty by the anti-treaty forces. There was a massacre of ten Protestant men in Bandon in 1922 (the Dunmanway Massacre) who were suspected of informing on the IRA and this led to panic and exodus of hundreds of Protestant families from the area. Later research has shown that the Protestants in the Bandon area had provided information on the IRA to the authorities.

But apart from the above I am not aware of any concerted effort by the IRA to ethnically cleanse Protestants from Ireland (and certainly not in the 26 counties).

The fact that there are still protestant communities in almost every part of Ireland testifies to this.
 
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Clearly unionism is closer to zionism :)
Political Unionism is autistic, amoral and the DUP has had its head poisoned with American "Christian Zionism". The DUP and UUP are capable of making the Irish Labour Party look good in comparison; are they really the lads you want to be measuring yourselves against?
 

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One of the things that I always found admirable about Sinn Fein was their support for the Palestinian cause. Now it seems they have started to cosy up to Likud, a party that makes the 1980s DUP on a bad day look like a gang of cuddly teddy bears in comparsion, and by doing so causing feelings of hurt and betrayal among the long suffering martyric Palestinian people who had previously looked to the Shinners as their friends in Ireland.

Palestinians voice concerns about Sinn Féin Likud meetings - The Irish News

“We've been disappointed, to say the least, about Sinn Féin’s meeting with a Zionist party whose members have explicitly defended and supported hate crimes committed against the Palestinians of Gaza, especially in 2014,” said Mr Eid.

“The reason why we are feeling Sinn Féin should not meet with Israeli parties that are part and parcel of Israel's multi-tired system of oppression is that we thought Sinn Féin was on our side, the same way it stood on the side of the oppressed South Africans and heeded their call for a blanket boycott of the Apartheid system.”
I always felt it was immature of SF to offer simple support to the Palestinian cause, rather than offering help mediate a settlement using their experience .
 

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Many left after the Free State was established feeling no connection to the new State. Some were driven out/harassed during the civil war, especially in the Munster Republic as they were assumed to be pro-treaty by the anti-treaty forces. There was a massacre of ten Protestant men in Bandon in 1922 (the Dunmanway Massacre) who were suspected of informing on the IRA and this led to panic and exodus of hundreds of Protestant families from the area.

But apart from the above I am not aware of any concerted effort by the IRA to ethnically cleanse Protestants from Ireland (and certainly not in the 26 counties).

The fact that there are still protestant communities in almost every part of Ireland testifies to this.
East Tyrone and Fermanagh would be the areas that the PIRA engaged in ethnic cleansing:
Jim Cusack: IRA engaged in 'ethnic cleansing' of Protestants along Border - Independent.ie

anyway...we digress!
 

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jesus, talk to the Protestants of East Tyrone about that

or indeed, after the Civil War, the Protestants of the 26 counties...just where did they all go?
those who had property are still here.
Those who hadnt a whole lot left to find work. and better prospects ...just like the Catholics .
 

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Clearly unionism is closer to zionism :)

Republicanism and Zionism go hand in hand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_HaLevi_Herzog

Rabbi Herzog served as rabbi of Belfast from 1916 to 1919 and was appointed rabbi of Dublin in 1919. A fluent speaker of the Irish language, he supported the First Dáil and the Irish republican cause during the Irish War of Independence, and became known as "the Sinn Féin Rabbi".[5] He went on to serve as Chief Rabbi of Ireland between 1922 and 1936, when he immigrated to Palestine to succeed Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook as Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi upon his death.

SF support the rights of the Jewish people to the land of Israel.
 


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