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Sinn fein change their story on liam Adams again


mmrebel

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Sinn Fein has revealed Liam Adams was chairing local party meetings in Belfast, more than three years after formally leaving the party over child sex abuse allegations. The party said Gerry Adams told them he was not aware his brother was involved with the party at this time. They added Liam Adams was doing party work despite not having reapplied to join Sinn Fein after leaving some time around 1997.


SF issued a statement today

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n the aftermath of the UTV Insight programme Sinn Fein acknowledged Liam Adams membership of the party.
Since then Sinn Fein has sought to establish the role Liam Adams played in the party. This process has taken a number of weeks to complete. It has involved discussions with Gerry Adams, party leaders nationally and party members and a review of available party documentation.
The fact is that information from this period in the 1990s is not complete.
We have established that Louth Sinn Fein and the national party leadership, apart from Gerry Adams, was unaware of the allegation against Liam Adams.
During this period the allegation against Liam Adams was known only to some members of his family and social services in the Six Counties and the RUC, both of whom had been informed in 1987.
We have also established that Liam Adams was Chair of the Louth Comhairle Ceantair for two and a half months in 1996. He held the position of secretary for one month before this time. He was also nominated as Education Officer but he did not take up this position.
Gerry Adams has stated he became aware in 1997 that Liam Adams was a member of Sinn Fein when he heard that his name might be going forward as a potential election candidate.
The party President moved to ensure that Liam Adams did not go forward as a candidate and that he later left the party. Gerry Adams did this without involving the party locally or nationally.
Read the full statement BBC News - Sinn Fein statement in full

Sinn Fein has revealed Liam Adams was chairing local party meetings in Belfast, more than three years after formally leaving the party over child sex abuse allegations. The party said Gerry Adams told them he was not aware his brother was involved with the party at this time. They added Liam Adams was doing party work despite not having reapplied to join Sinn Fein after leaving some time around 1997.

Arthur Morgan confirms Adams worked with youths
BBC News - Arthur Morgan confirms Liam Adams worked with youth

Read Slugger for a more detailed analysis

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It would seem SF have had their hand forced by the Sunday tribune after receiving detailed questions frpom them
 

pd_phoenix

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well its about time the media took some form of interest in this story
 

mmrebel

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Sinn Fein's own constitution says a member who suspects another member of sex abuse must tell Ard Chomlairle. He's in breach of party rules. whats the punishment for breaking party rules ???
 

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More importantly whats the punishment for protecting alleged paedo's ?
 

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Sinn Fein's own constitution says a member who suspects another member of sex abuse must tell Ard Chomlairle. He's in breach of party rules. whats the punishment for breaking party rules ???
A bullet seemed to be the traditional answer... everything seems to have modernised now though.
 

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Alot of the people bigging up this story are people who are opposed the GFA.
 

mmrebel

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Alot of the people bigging up this story are people who are opposed the GFA.
Cmon now factual you saying protecting someone like liam adams is not a story and letting him work with Sinn fein youth , would you let Liam Adams be involved with your kids ??
 
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It depends on the type of work involved, Constituency Secretary, no need to be Party Member, Local Chairperson, Membership required. If what Liam Adams did is true, and I personally believe it is then he shouldn't have even thought of doing anything for the Party and Party Officials should have rejected his help from the begining.
 

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It depends on the type of work involved, Constituency Secretary, no need to be Party Member, Local Chairperson, Membership required. If what Liam Adams did is true, and I personally believe it is then he shouldn't have even thought of doing anything for the Party and Party Officials should have rejected his help from the begining.
He was chairperson of SF youth in louth at one stage
 
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And like I said, it should never have happened. I remember hearing a story of a Volunter who slept with the Underage Daughter of a Family he was staying with in a Safehouse. When the Army found out he was Knee - Capped by Local Volunters. I'm not sure if it's true or a myth though. That's what should've happened to Liam Adams.
 

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So if the official line that Sinn Fein where unaware of the allegations against Liam, I wonder now are some of them unhappy that Liam was allowed to be involved with them.
Could there be criticism within the party ranks of how Gerry acted towards his brother who was aware of the allegations?

BBC News - Gerry Adams statement in full

Sinn Fein did not know of the allegations against Liam Adams and did nothing wrong. There was no cover-up by Sinn Fein. It is a matter of sincere regret that my colleagues have been the target of unfair and unjustifiable criticism by political opponents.
 

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So if the official line that Sinn Fein where unaware of the allegations against Liam, I wonder now are some of them unhappy that Liam was allowed to be involved with them.
Could there be criticism within the party ranks of how Gerry acted towards his brother who was aware of the allegations?

BBC News - Gerry Adams statement in full

Those two statements today, one from Sinn Féin and the other from Gerry Adams, are the first I've seen where they deliberately talk about each other in the third person.
 

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Mary Lou was exactly convincing in the TV interviews either. That said don't think too many would be particularly comfortable being interviewed.
Is it a coincidence that they put forward someone who wouldn't have been in the party/movement at the time all this was happening?

It is interesting and also interesting that people like Martin McGuinness, Martin Ferris or Paddy Doc, all long termers all IRA have not come forward to speak up for Gerry. Possibly they don't want to be tainted and probably they feel sickened that he did not tell them about Liam. Whatever the reason the message is that Gerry is basically on his own in this one, Mary Lou counts for little and Dublin Sinn Fein will not be that pleased to see her used this way.
 

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It is interesting and also interesting that people like Martin McGuinness, Martin Ferris or Paddy Doc, all long termers all IRA have not come forward to speak up for Gerry. Possibly they don't want to be tainted and probably they feel sickened that he did not tell them about Liam. Whatever the reason the message is that Gerry is basically on his own in this one, Mary Lou counts for little and Dublin Sinn Fein will not be that pleased to see her used this way.
Even before this there has been cracks opening up between the Ferris camp and the Adams one.

If there is a leadership challenge that is probably where it will come from.

The thing is that while Ferris like Christy Burke has the respect of the "naturally" Republican he is hated by the 26 counties establishment and I cant imagine the Brits being to keen on him either.
 

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It is interesting and also interesting that people like Martin McGuinness, Martin Ferris or Paddy Doc, all long termers all IRA have not come forward to speak up for Gerry. Possibly they don't want to be tainted and probably they feel sickened that he did not tell them about Liam. Whatever the reason the message is that Gerry is basically on his own in this one, Mary Lou counts for little and Dublin Sinn Fein will not be that pleased to see her used this way.
Aside from the issue of supporting Adams or not, were McGuinness, Ferris etc interviewed it would have left the door open as to their own knowledge of Liam Adams role in Sinn Fein at the time.
 

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More importantly whats the punishment for protecting alleged paedo's ?
none just ask the gaurds, nuns, priests and those in the know :roll:
 
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