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Sinn Féin Conference ‘A Century of Workers in Struggle 1913-2013’ - March 2nd


Blissett

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SF are organising a major Conference this weekend to mark a century since the 1913 Lockout, perhaps the most significant event in Irish Industrial History, the 1913 Lockout.

This anniversary offers an excellent opportunity to reflect upon the struggles of workers in the past, and on the challenges facing workers today, both in Ireland and abroad.

The conference, entitled ‘A Century of Workers in Struggle 1913-2013’ is to take place on March the 2nd, 2013 in Liberty Hall in Dublin.

The Conference will hear from many of Ireland's key Trade Union leaders such as Jack O'Connor, Jimmy Kelly, Peter Bunting and John Douglas, journalists such as Eamon Dunphy, Frank Connolly and Gerry Flynn, workers from the Vita Cortex, Lagan Brick and Waterford Crystal disputes, Siobhán O'Donoghue of the MRCI, International Union Leaders, writers such as Brian Hanley and Conor McCabe, Sinn Fein leaders Gerry Adams and Mary Lou McDonald, and many more.

This event will be particularly interesting in light of the weekends developments.

I think it is fair to say that the Union Movement is very much at a crossroads, and the discussion on 'Trade Unionism and the Rights of Workers' will be very interesting in that context, particularly in light of participation of Jack O'Connor and Jimmy Kelly.

Could be an interesting event.

 


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I thought this is a major conference on workers rights so what's Dunphy doing there? Was he not the champion of the small shareholder during the eircom debacle?

This must be the first time SF mentioned Larkin who had little time for nationalism as Larkin was an internationalist. I assume the conference will politiely ignore his advice "You cannot eat a flag".
Chair has his work cut out in the 2nd session hoping to keep some of the listed speakers to share an hour. Interesting timing that gives Mary Lou 5 minutes more to speak than is allowed to Brian Hanley to set out the history of the lock out. Says it all really about SF and workers rights.
 
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Looks really good. Would love to hear Brian Hanley. Fair play to Sinn Féin. Hopefully I'll get down to it. Cheers for the OP.
 

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I thought this is a major conference on workers rights so what's Dunphy doing there? Was he not the champion of the small shareholder during the eircom debacle?

This must be the first time SF mentioned Larkin who had little time for nationalism as Larkin was an internationalist. I assume the conference will politiely ignore his advice "You cannot eat a flag".
Chair has his work cut out in the 2nd session hoping to keep someof the listed speakers to share an hour. Interesting timing that gives Mary Lou 5 minutes more to speak than is allowed to Brian Hanley to set out the history of the lock out. Says it all really about SF and workers rights.
I suspect that whatever lineup you would be unsatisfied.

Dunphy is a journalist, and is there in that capacity, to chair a debate, as he has often done.

All the discussions will touch on the lockout, its at the heart of the discussion throughout the day, so it's hardly as if there will be no reference of it from speakers such as McCabe when Hanley has finished his general setting the scene.
 

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I thought this is a major conference on workers rights so what's Dunphy doing there? Was he not the champion of the small shareholder during the eircom debacle?
Dunphy never did an honest days work in his life. Chasing a football, chasing women, partying, and talking.

And now Dunphy is on about "the workers".
 

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I suspect that whatever lineup you would be unsatisfied.

Dunphy is a journalist, and is there in that capacity, to chair a debate, as he has often done.

Shane Ross attended the eircom shareholders meeting alongside Dunphy in his capacity as a journalist too. Eircom was a direct contradiction of everything that someone like Larkin stood for, He's worked for INM the true inheritors of the William Martin Murphy and publishers of the Indo the follow on for the Freemans Journal. Is it apporpriate to have 2 former journos from this stable 100 years on?
 

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One wonders what the 'workers' would make of an average industrial expense account...
 

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One wonders what the 'workers' would make of an average industrial expense account...
I presume that Gerry & Mary Lou will demand that the union head honchos take a cut in their salaries proportional to the reduction they've negotiated for their workers today? I assume Mary Lou will be locked in the cupboard rather than allowed out to repeat her critical remarks of public sector unions today.
 

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I presume that Gerry & Mary Lou will demand that the union head honchos take a cut in their salaries proportional to the reduction they've negotiated for their workers today? I assume Mary Lou will be locked in the cupboard rather than allowed out to repeat her critical remarks of public sector unions today.
It would want to be a pretty large cupboard.
 

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I thought this is a major conference on workers rights so what's Dunphy doing there? Was he not the champion of the small shareholder during the eircom debacle?

This must be the first time SF mentioned Larkin who had little time for nationalism as Larkin was an internationalist. I assume the conference will politiely ignore his advice "You cannot eat a flag".
Chair has his work cut out in the 2nd session hoping to keep some of the listed speakers to share an hour. Interesting timing that gives Mary Lou 5 minutes more to speak than is allowed to Brian Hanley to set out the history of the lock out. Says it all really about SF and workers rights.
Could you not see your way, AFTP, to at least give them a small credit for organising the event at least?
The thing is, it's a commemoration, I would imagine, of 100 years of history, whereupon a whole lot has changed. What worked then, I would venture, doesn't work now. People who are overly critical of the trade union movement now might be surprised, nay, dismayed if they understood even a small portion of industrial relations law in this state, and how it is stacked against the union and the worker. I know I was when I undertook a shop steward's course some years ago and came to understand that ordinary workers have one hand tied behind their backs in any grievance with an employer.
 

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Is it appropriate given what we know about how Connolly and Larkin felt about drink and the prevalent addiction of the Dublin underclass at the time for alcohol, the control that of the drinks trade by business classes at the time in Dublin that the guy who's famous remark about the Celtic Tiger was that you couldn't get decent Coke in this town is now chairing reflective commemorations on this terrible episode in the social life of the city? Its not as thought there would be plenty of others who couldn't chair such a panel?

As I said above, says it all about SF and what they think of workers rights.
 

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SF are organising a major Conference this weekend to mark a century since the 1913 Lockout, perhaps the most significant event in Irish Industrial History, the 1913 Lockout.

This anniversary offers an excellent opportunity to reflect upon the struggles of workers in the past, and on the challenges facing workers today, both in Ireland and abroad.

The conference, entitled ‘A Century of Workers in Struggle 1913-2013’ is to take place on March the 2nd, 2013 in Liberty Hall in Dublin.

The Conference will hear from many of Ireland's key Trade Union leaders such as Jack O'Connor, Jimmy Kelly, Peter Bunting and John Douglas, journalists such as Eamon Dunphy, Frank Connolly and Gerry Flynn, workers from the Vita Cortex, Lagan Brick and Waterford Crystal disputes, Siobhán O'Donoghue of the MRCI, International Union Leaders, writers such as Brian Hanley and Conor McCabe, Sinn Fein leaders Gerry Adams and Mary Lou McDonald, and many more.

This event will be particularly interesting in light of the weekends developments.

I think it is fair to say that the Union Movement is very much at a crossroads, and the discussion on 'Trade Unionism and the Rights of Workers' will be very interesting in that context, particularly in light of participation of Jack O'Connor and Jimmy Kelly.

Could be an interesting event.
What has SF to do with the Lockout? what has the lockout to do with any of the parties? labour sold out and they are the only party that can lay claim to it. Sadly in Irish politics, important events in Irish history as torn apart and sown back together again to suit political propaganda. SF want to get labours votes and not to help the Irish people. ULA wants to get labours votes and not to help the Irish people. both of these parties are the same as the current crowd we have in now. Both potential sell outs in the making. The one big surprise is that FF have jumped on the populist wagon yet. It's the same as the whole property Tax. Only Power matters in Irish politics, when will the people matter you stupid F**king selfish parties (FG/Lab/FF/SF/ULA)
 

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This must be the first time SF mentioned Larkin who had little time for nationalism as Larkin was an internationalist. I assume the conference will politiely ignore his advice "You cannot eat a flag".
Chair has his work cut out in the 2nd session hoping to keep some of the listed speakers to share an hour. Interesting timing that gives Mary Lou 5 minutes more to speak than is allowed to Brian Hanley to set out the history of the lock out. Says it all really about SF and workers rights.
Liberation from imperialism & internationalism aren't mutually exclusive: ANC, NLF, FMLN, VC . . .

I suppose Connolly was just a flag waving nationalist too:

James Connolly: Labour and Partition (1914)

"But Ireland, what of Ireland? It is the trusted leaders of Ireland that in secret conclave with the enemies of Ireland have agreed to see Ireland as a nation disrupted politically and her children divided under separate political governments with warring interests.

Now, what is the position of Labour towards it all? Let us remember that the Orange aristocracy now fighting for its supremacy in Ireland has at all times been based upon a denial of the common human rights of the Irish people; that the Orange Order was not founded to safeguard religious freedom, but to deny religious freedom, and that it raised this religious question, not for the sake of any religion, but in order to use religious zeal in the interests of the oppressive property rights of rackrenting landlords and sweating capitalists. That the Irish people might be kept asunder and robbed whilst so sundered and divided, the Orange aristocracy went down to the lowest depths and out of the lowest pits of hell brought up the abominations of sectarian feuds to stir the passions of the ignorant mob. No crime was too brutal or cowardly; no lie too base; no slander too ghastly, as long as they served to keep the democracy asunder.

And now that the progress of democracy elsewhere has somewhat muzzled the dogs of aristocratic power, now that in England as well as in Ireland the forces of labour are stirring and making for freedom and light, this same gang of well-fed plunderers of the people, secure in Union held upon their own dupes, seek by threats of force to arrest the march of idea and stifle the light of civilisation and liberty. And, lo and behold, the trusted guardians of the people, the vaunted saviours of the Irish race, agree in front of the enemy and in face of the world to sacrifice to the bigoted enemy the unity of the nation and along with it the lives, liberties and hopes of that portion of the nation which in the midst of the most hostile surroundings have fought to keep the faith in things national and progressive.

Such a scheme as that agreed to by Redmond and Devlin, the betrayal of the national democracy of industrial Ulster would mean a carnival of reaction both North and South, would set back the wheels of progress, would destroy the oncoming unity of the Irish Labour movement and paralyse all advanced movements whilst it endured.

To it Labour should give the bitterest opposition, against it Labour in Ulster should fight even to the death, if necessary, as our fathers fought before us."


PS: What have YOU done to commemorate the Lock-out, apart from whinging about those who are doing something?
 

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SF are organising a major Conference this weekend to mark a century since the 1913 Lockout, perhaps the most significant event in Irish Industrial History, the 1913 Lockout.

This anniversary offers an excellent opportunity to reflect upon the struggles of workers in the past, and on the challenges facing workers today, both in Ireland and abroad.

The conference, entitled ‘A Century of Workers in Struggle 1913-2013’ is to take place on March the 2nd, 2013 in Liberty Hall in Dublin.

The Conference will hear from many of Ireland's key Trade Union leaders such as Jack O'Connor, Jimmy Kelly, Peter Bunting and John Douglas, journalists such as Eamon Dunphy, Frank Connolly and Gerry Flynn, workers from the Vita Cortex, Lagan Brick and Waterford Crystal disputes, Siobhán O'Donoghue of the MRCI, International Union Leaders, writers such as Brian Hanley and Conor McCabe, Sinn Fein leaders Gerry Adams and Mary Lou McDonald, and many more.

This event will be particularly interesting in light of the weekends developments.

I think it is fair to say that the Union Movement is very much at a crossroads, and the discussion on 'Trade Unionism and the Rights of Workers' will be very interesting in that context, particularly in light of participation of Jack O'Connor and Jimmy Kelly.

Could be an interesting event.

Is this major event, open to the public or is it an in-house Sinn Féin & Friends event? 4 hours doesn't seem very long.. It won't leave much time for the people on the floor to ask a few questions.. Perhaps they should have invited a few others from the wider republican & socialist family, so as the people on the floor could grill them all together.. A token contribution from The Proletarians who live in todays Dublin Slums, where the bulk of the Citizen Army came from, would have been nice.. Suppose in some ways Mary Lou fills that role as she comes from near where James Joyce came from..
 

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Is it appropriate given what we know about how Connolly and Larkin felt about drink and the prevalent addiction of the Dublin underclass at the time for alcohol, the control that of the drinks trade by business classes at the time in Dublin that the guy who's famous remark about the Celtic Tiger was that you couldn't get decent Coke in this town is now chairing reflective commemorations on this terrible episode in the social life of the city? Its not as thought there would be plenty of others who couldn't chair such a panel?

As I said above, says it all about SF and what they think of workers rights.
The Millwall superstar gives it the air and grace of the common man.. A pathetic joke imo..
 

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