Sinn Fein motion to end ban on councillors working for the party

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Motion 92

This Ard Fheis:


  • Acknowledges that many members currently elected or co-opted to represent Sinn Féin have other means of salaried employment in addition to their council pay and are free to continue with that employment;
  • Agrees that there should be no prohibition on Sinn Féin Councillors working for the party or for other Sinn Féin elected representatives on a full or part time basis.
Devlin/Plunkett Cumann (Templeogue/Terenure) Drumm/Doherty/Clarke Cumann (Clondalkin) Bob Smith Cumann (Dundrum)
http://www.sinnfein.ie/ard-fheis-2017-motions

The motion was passed despite a SF HQ amendment to refer it back to the Ard chomhairle

I thought many TDs in all parties hire councillors to either work for them in the Dail or at their constituency or both. Im surprised to hear that is not the case with SF, especially seeing as they also claim to use TDs pay above AIW to hire people to work in the constituency.

http://www.thejournal.ie/some-people-join-the-sinn-fein-party-for-the-wrong-reasons-3704609-Nov2017/
the journal and number of others all reported the same strange thing, they firstly said
Current policy prohibits councillors from holding other jobs within the party, or working for TDs.
then they reported this
Sinn Féin councillor Mark Ward, said he came under pressure to resign his council seat when he took up a job with the party.
So he didn't quit, hes still a councillor and working for Sinn Fein HQ as policy adviser which means the policy isn't enforced.

So Sinn Fein HQ are breaking their own rules?

Can anyone name any other SF councillors that do paid work for TDs or a constituency organisation or the party HQ?

maybe I should figure it out by the hint that motion was put by
Devlin/Plunkett Cumann (Templeogue/Terenure) Drumm/Doherty/Clarke Cumann (Clondalkin) [where Mark Ward is ] Bob Smith Cumann (Dundrum)
Sorcha Nic Cormaic who also spoke is Dundrum and works as teacher aswell so she speaking re the first part of the motion.

Enda Fanning perhaps? oh Enda Fanning is their EU political adviser https://twitter.com/EFFanning He now works for Lynn Boylan http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124984/LYNN_BOYLAN_assistants.html
I now see he quit as councillor just last month http://www.echo.ie/news/article/russ...n-council-seat


there are plenty of others thread to post general comments and sinn fein and the ard fheis http://www.politics.ie/forum/sinn-fein/
 
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He lost it when he said “ this is what you have all been waiting for” a bit Trumpy, and any body outside the shinner silo , would consider concieited, a poor speech from his point of veiw lacking in vision with no long term veiw as regards the national question.
 

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As an Ulster Unionist i would like a meaningful conversation, without someone verbally beating my house down, and those who do not have blood in there hands, Of note tonight he mentioned those in the Sinn Fein who were murdered, as opposed to those in Enniskillen who were killed, What a vile man , from a vile family.
 

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As an Ulster Unionist i would like a meaningful conversation, without someone verbally beating my house down, and those who do not have blood in there hands, Of note tonight he mentioned those in the Sinn Fein who were murdered, as opposed to those in Enniskillen who were killed, What a vile man , from a vile family.
please don't drag this thread off topic Sinn Fin
 

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Does it, matter what thread it is let’s deal with it on a one to one, ok going to bed , other than to affirm according to your leadership, there is a hierarchy of dead people, those were murdered , Sinn Fein , and those who were killed , civilians.
 

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Does it, matter what thread it is let’s deal with it on a one to one, ok going to bed , other than to affirm according to your leadership, there is a hierarchy of dead people, those were murdered , Sinn Fein , and those who were killed , civilians.
im not a Sinn Fein supporter, obviously, did you even read the first post.
 

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The original poster needs to get the facts before spouting rubbish.
Mark Ward is a Councillor but does not work for SF
Sorcha NicChormaic is a teacher and councillor but does not work for the party.
Enda Fanning works for Lynn Boylan and was a councillor. When a Councillor he was not allowed work for the party.
Hope that clarifies matters.
 

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The original poster needs to get the facts before spouting rubbish. Mark Ward is a Councillor but does not work for SF Sorcha NicChormaic is a teacher and councillor but does not work for the party. Enda Fanning works for Lynn Boylan and was a councillor. When a Councillor he was not allowed work for the party. Hope that clarifies matters.
why was Mark Ward reported as saying he was pressured to quit as councillor,he didnt quit as a councillor, and its reported he is working for SF HQ, so are you saying he never worked for the party at the same time as being a councillor?

[video=youtube;45ov_S5AW40]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ov_S5AW40[/video]
here he says it at 1hr 30ms and 15s second he said he was co-opted to council then applied and took a job with the party.
so march 2016 I was selected by my cumman to be co-opted out the
south of the county council... I immediatly started looking for alternative employment and I applied for a
position in our party and was successful...as soon as I started working for the party instead I become under pressure to resign my role as a counselor if I wanted to continue to work for the party
I looked at this page http://www.sinnfein.ie/dublin-councillors which listed Enda Fanning as a SF councillor forgive me for believing the party's own page on who is and isn't a councillor! I now see he quit just last month http://www.echo.ie/news/article/russell-named-to-fill-vacated-sinn-fein-council-seat simarily was there any overlap between his SF job and councillor job?
 
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As an Ulster Unionist i would like a meaningful conversation, without someone verbally beating my house down, and those who do not have blood in there hands, Of note tonight he mentioned those in the Sinn Fein who were murdered, as opposed to those in Enniskillen who were killed, What a vile man , from a vile family.
Aren't you people not sufficiently ashamed of yourselves to be quiet? You owe your position here in Ireland to the plantations and the penal laws, which your Orange Order celebrate with some gusto every year, swords and all, the lists of thuggish faction fights ("battle of the diamond") embroidered on your collarettes.

Enniskillen? The balance is outstanding...
 

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Aren't you people not sufficiently ashamed of yourselves to be quiet? You owe your position here in Ireland to the plantations and the penal laws, which your Orange Order celebrate with some gusto every year, swords and all, the lists of thuggish faction fights ("battle of the diamond") embroidered on your collarettes.

Enniskillen? The balance is outstanding...
please don't drag this thread off topic Sinn Fin
 


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