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sinn fein policies


topcat

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why is it that nearly every thread here is about a united ireland or related the 6 counties? do members of other parties realise that Sinn Féin have good policies related to all other areas too, the economy, social issues, eu issues etc etc. it annoys me that the media in general only seem to want to talk to sf about certain issues when they have such good ideas and articulate politicians to explain them.
 


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Sf have policies ?the only defined policy i see is that they wave the tricolour at election counts.
 

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Sf have policies ?the only defined policy i see is that they wave the tricolour at election counts.
you obviously are out of touch. have you ever looked at the issues section of the SF website? i can tell you that all these things are what SF activists are working on from day to day. i don't deny that national unification is the no 1 policy and that is a good thing but sf are about other things too you know.
 

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you obviously are out of touch. have you ever looked at the issues section of the SF website? i can tell you that all these things are what SF activists are working on from day to day. i don't deny that national unification is the no 1 policy and that is a good thing but sf are about other things too you know.
Sinn Fein claim to be socialists. One of their leaders welcomed george bush to the north and the party supported the bank bail out. James connolly would vomit with embarressment at these bunch of jokers claiming his legacy. If SF couldn't make huge gains in these times, the question must be asked, when will they ever? They are economically illiterate, incompetent, and completely oppertunistic.
 

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Sinn Fein claim to be socialists. One of their leaders welcomed george bush to the north and the party supported the bank bail out. James connolly would vomit with embarressment at these bunch of jokers claiming his legacy. If SF couldn't make huge gains in these times, the question must be asked, when will they ever? They are economically illiterate, incompetent, and completely oppertunistic.

Aye - they would have better chance of influencing him and the country he represents if they were ignorant to him
 

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Aye - they would have better chance of influencing him and the country he represents if they were ignorant to him
Are you serious, you surely are having a laugh? You think the US gives a toss about what sinn fein, fianna fail or any irish party thinks? You are bonkers.

George Bush is an imperialist and ran the country at the head of world capitalism, you would think sinn fein who claim to be socialist and anti-imperialist[the core reason they exist] would tell him where to go. But no, marty had other ideas. Such hypocrisy is mindblowing and your comment is so naive its ridiculous, Bush being influenced by Sinn fein, you could laugh or cry.Also the party leaders visit to wallstreet, somehow I cant imagine connolly championing such behaviour, but who cares we'll just whore his name anyways. Sinn fein are oppertunistic amateurs and are a disgrace to republican socialism.
 

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In the last GE every SF policy was "to create an Ireland of equals". While that sounds very nice there were virtually no specificsbeyond things like Healthcare & Education for all. SF realise they don't need to cost policies as will oikely never try to implement.
 

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In the last GE every SF policy was "to create an Ireland of equals". While that sounds very nice there were virtually no specificsbeyond things like Healthcare & Education for all. SF realise they don't need to cost policies as will oikely never try to implement.
Their main new policy is to replace all those old nasty IRA men with new pretty young people to appease the more 'respectable' class of people. But that didnt work im afraid. SDLP for slow learners:-D
 

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If you want one word to remember its all about equality. Sexual equality - equal treatment for the LGBT community. Economic equality - redistribution of wealth from rich to poor via better public services in health and education financed by progressive tax. Full cultural equality for all ethnic groups. Labour values. Human rights - workers rights, womens rights, the rights of all marginalised groups. Basically Sinn Féin is a progressive left wing party with equality and labour values at its core, with these values applied in a modern context.

Ireland is still in many ways a conservative society with one of the most regressive systems of tax and worst public services - and one of the most unequal economic models in Western Europe. So Sinn Féin's position is an important alternative to the conventional parties, but its alternative it not extreme or controvertial within the context of broader European politics.
 
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Mr.De-Regulation

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If you want one word to remember its all about equality. Sexual equality - equal treatment for the LGBT community. Economic equality - redistribution of wealth from rich to poor via better public services in health and education financed by progressive tax. Full cultural equality for all ethnic groups. Labour values. Human rights - workers rights, womens rights, the rights of all marginalised groups. Basically Sinn Féin is a progressive left wing party with equality and labour values at its core, with these values applied in a modern context.

Ireland is still in many ways a conservative society with one of the most regressive systems of tax and worst public services - and one of the most unequal economic models in Western Europe. So Sinn Féin's position is an important alternative to the conventional parties, but its alternative it not extreme or controvertial within the context of broader European politics.
That isnt a list of polices. You cant legislate for "equality". You have to find something that is stopping someone from being treated equally and then propose an actual policy.

From the list you gave me. Post an actual SF policy that is different from an FG policy.
 

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That isnt a list of polices. You cant legislate for "equality". You have to find something that is stopping someone from being treated equally and then propose an actual policy.

From the list you gave me. Post an actual SF policy that is different from an FG policy.
Check out Sinn Féin's healthcare is a right campaign-free health care for all financed by progressive tax, something which FG does not propose. Mind you at this point in the electoral cycle specific policies are not to be unveiled by parties. What I did state however is Sinn FÉin values and you can expect Sinn Féin polices will be developed from those values.
 

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Check out Sinn Féin's healthcare is a right campaign-free health care for all financed by progressive tax, something which FG does not propose. Mind you at this point in the electoral cycle specific policies are not to be unveiled by parties. What I did state however is Sinn FÉin values and you can expect Sinn Féin polices will be developed from those values.
At least this a start.

What do you mean by progressive tax?

SF want to fund a nationalised health care, which no country has ever successfully done, and FG want a nationised health care insurance. Which has worked in many countries. So SFs only policy is opposing providing Ireland with the top health care in the world.

Equality means different things to different people.
 

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At least this a start.

What do you mean by progressive tax?

SF want to fund a nationalised health care, which no country has ever successfully done, and FG want a nationised health care insurance. Which has worked in many countries. So SFs only policy is opposing providing Ireland with the top health care in the world.

Equality means different things to different people.
i believe you are wrong here. for example germany has a good nationalised health system and it works.
 

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I thought their policy was to

1. Hijack any popular cause.
2. Infiltrate supporters into community boards and organisations. In fact, any organisation they can get into will do. Special attention to media organistions.
3. Replace the old murder supporting types with pretty young 'uns that can claim they weren't around.
4. Never condemn anything. Except Government policies. And drug dealing that can be denied.
5. Subvert the Republic at every available opportunity.
6. Avoid policy specifics. Keep it simple stupid. Engage in generalisations and sweeping statemenets. Because the electorate are thick and won't cop that. YOu know.
7. Never mention holiday homes in Donegal.

Dunno what you mean about policies. Clear as day to me.
 

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. Post an actual SF policy that is different from an FG policy.
FG believe in the social class system, there must be poor people in order for people to be rich. They are an upper class party, in councils at least, they don't work in areas that don't garner votes. Maybe that is SF's problem, they care about everyone and work for those who rarely vote.
 

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i believe you are wrong here. for example germany has a good nationalised health system and it works.
Germany doesnt have a nationalised health care. It has nationalise healthcare insurance. In fact their system would be even more laissez faire, privatise and capitalist than FGs proposal.

FG believe in the social class system, there must be poor people in order for people to be rich. They are an upper class party, in councils at least, they don't work in areas that don't garner votes. Maybe that is SF's problem, they care about everyone and work for those who rarely vote.
Please make examples of policies that support this. FG have a bundle of policies to make education more inclusive to poorer areas. Ask Richard Bruton what he thinks of a two-tiered social system. All of FGs social policies is based on everyone receiving the same public services.
 

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Germany doesnt have a nationalised health care. It has nationalise healthcare insurance. In fact their system would be even more laissez faire, privatise and capitalist than FGs proposal.



Please make examples of policies that support this. FG have a bundle of policies to make education more inclusive to poorer areas. Ask Richard Bruton what he thinks of a two-tiered social system. All of FGs social policies is based on everyone receiving the same public services.
some posts are just not worth replying to, including this one
 

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