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Sinn Féin release statement condemning Anti-Social Behavior Stone Throwers.


cathalbrugha

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Attacks On Council Staff Unacceptable And Must Stop.

In recent weeks there have been a number of attacks on Council staff working to grit the roads in North Clondalkin. As a result of these attacks evening gritting services have been withdrawn from the Coldcut Road and the Neilstown road areas. A small number of young people are throwing stones at Council staff. As a result roads will not be gritted and community safety will suffer. Sinn Féin Cllr Matty McDonagh has called on parents to ensure that their children are not involved in these attacks on Council staff. If the attacks continue the local area will not get the gritting services it will need during the cold December and January period.

The same newsletter also goes on to inform us that the Budget 2013 will result in estimated loss of 7,000 Jobs to the local economy. Personally I think there is a massive responsibility on parents to ensure that there kids aren't out rioting, or throwing rocks at council staff, who are trying to do a days work. But is there a connection between Anti-Social Behavior and Social Deprivation. For the uninitiated North Clondalkin is the suicide capital of Ireland and has an unemployment rate of approximately 55%. There's also approximately 2,000+ registered drug addicts, and that's excluding West Clondalkin. That's also a conservative estimate, as a lot of addicts aren't registered as addicts. I don't think it's rocket science either to draw a conclusion that there is a connection between suicide, addiction, and unemployment, hence why the vast majority of 'addicts' and 'suicides' are in fact males aged between 15 and 25. What's the key to ending the madness? How do we get from A 2 B? Is Educaton enough? Is it important? I know of perhaps four or five people from the area who've managed to go to college, or university, in perhaps a thirty year period. The traditional Political Class would, or should be well aware of what's going on, and precisely how bad things are, as members of the local Fine Gael party are in fact on the Board of Directors for organisations like Pieta House, and the Labor Party have members on the Drugs Task Force which commissioned the pilot report on drug addiction in the area. How can they justify closing the Aids respite in Cherry Orchard Hospital? How can they justify slashing Community Employment Schemes in the area? There's not much else they can slash at this stage, whilst they throw money at the Round Towers GAA in South Clondalkin to the tune of hundreds of thousands?
 

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Attacks On Council Staff Unacceptable And Must Stop.

In recent weeks there have been a number of attacks on Council staff working to grit the roads in North Clondalkin. As a result of these attacks evening gritting services have been withdrawn from the Coldcut Road and the Neilstown road areas. A small number of young people are throwing stones at Council staff. As a result roads will not be gritted and community safety will suffer. Sinn Féin Cllr Matty McDonagh has called on parents to ensure that their children are not involved in these attacks on Council staff. If the attacks continue the local area will not get the gritting services it will need during the cold December and January period.

The same newsletter also goes on to inform us that the Budget 2013 will result in estimated loss of 7,000 Jobs to the local economy. Personally I think there is a massive responsibility on parents to ensure that there kids aren't out rioting, or throwing rocks at council staff, who are trying to do a days work. But is there a connection between Anti-Social Behavior and Social Deprivation. For the uninitiated North Clondalkin is the suicide capital of Ireland and has an unemployment rate of approximately 55%. There's also approximately 2,000+ registered drug addicts, and that's excluding West Clondalkin. That's also a conservative estimate, as a lot of addicts aren't registered as addicts. I don't think it's rocket science either to draw a conclusion that there is a connection between suicide, addiction, and unemployment, hence why the vast majority of 'addicts' and 'suicides' are in fact males aged between 15 and 25. What's the key to ending the madness? How do we get from A 2 B? Is Educaton enough? Is it important? I know of perhaps four or five people from the area who've managed to go to college, or university, in perhaps a thirty year period. The traditional Political Class would, or should be well aware of what's going on, and precisely how bad things are, as members of the local Fine Gael party are in fact on the Board of Directors for organisations like Pieta House, and the Labor Party have members on the Drugs Task Force which commissioned the pilot report on drug addiction in the area. How can they justify closing the Aids respite in Cherry Orchard Hospital? How can they justify slashing Community Employment Schemes in the area? There's not much else they can slash at this stage, whilst they throw money at the Round Towers GAA in South Clondalkin to the tune of hundreds of thousands?
 

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[QUOTE=Aindreas Ryan;6275 YET MORE S F PUBLICTY AND THOSE DOING ARE MORE THAT LIKELY S F SUPPORTERS
 

cathalbrugha

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You were doing fine until you got to resentment about Round Towers :)
haha - I'm not against the GAA. But there's money being thrown at South Clondalkin, and as per usual the kids in North Clondalkin get absolutely nothing. The Labor Party have members in the area involved with Round Towers. They're actually buying votes in bloc, imho. I've actually seen people try and start a GAA club in the area, once upon a time, and there was no support, from either the GAA or the local County Council. The GAA pitch at the back of my house has been idle for the past three decades.. The local soccer clubs still have no proper facilities such as a club house.. There's plenty of land to build things, but alas, the political corruption on the local SDCC ensured that all of that land was re-zoned.. The entire Political Class were found guilty in a court of law of corruption, the whole chebang.. It's beyond comical a cara..
 

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Aindreas Ryan;6275 YET MORE S F PUBLICTY AND THOSE DOING ARE MORE THAT LIKELY S F SUPPORTERS[/QUOTE said:
I'm not a member of Sinn Féin. I didn't even vote for them at the last election. Trust me on this, there'd be absolutely no need for someone to invent a crime in that area. That's like saying I robbed me aul dears car to get a bit of publicity for Anti-Joyriding..

Just to enlighten you of the realitys, a member of Republican Sinn Féin was murdered in the area less than two years ago. Because RSF are a small party the murder was ignored by the establishment. And before you ask, no, I'm not a member of RSF or any of its associate groups either.. What would happen if a member of FF/FG/Labor was murdered?
 

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Then why post SF statements in an attempt to start a propaganda thread?
What next, are you going to condemn them for condemning Anti-Social behavior? What's your opinion on the statistics?

Is there a connection between Anti-Social behavior, addiction, suicide and an Unemployment Rate of 55%?

PS- I've had this argument with posters like Cruimh already about Sinn Féin when I posted a thread on the Homeless. I'm not a member of Sinn Féin. But these are issues which effect my every day life, as I live in the area, and I've also been homeless in the past.. Surely if I've lost friends, and family members from addiction and suicide I have a right to an opinion? Do I need to have my hand in someones pocket, or a shiny cert on the wall to have a valid opinion, in your eyes?
 

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What next, are you going to condemn them for condemning Anti-Social behavior? What's your opinion on the statistics?

Is there a connection between Anti-Social behavior, addiction, suicide and an Unemployment Rate of 55%?

PS- I've had this argument with posters like Cruimh already about Sinn Féin when I posted a thread on the Homeless. I'm not a member of Sinn Féin. But these are issues which effect my every day life, as I live in the area, and I've also been homeless in the past.. Surely if I've lost friends, and family members from addiction and suicide I have a right to an opinion? Do I need to have my hand in someones pocket, or a shiny cert on the wall to have a valid opinion, in your eyes?
I agree its a valid argument, but why do you need a SF statement to start a thread on it? I do believe all of the above are connected.
 

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What next, are you going to condemn them for condemning Anti-Social behavior?
Sinn Fein is all about anti-social behaviour. That's it's raison d'être.
 

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Three knee cappings would soon put the thugs back in order... But SF/IRA are too busy administering British Rule in the 6 eh..? :D
And yet you gave SF a preference vote in the last General Election. Would you like me to copy and paste where you stated that?
 

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And yet you gave SF a preference vote in the last General Election. Would you like me to copy and paste where you stated that?
No need Kev. I did so with my eyes wide open. I regret the loss of control of the thug culture in the North and in many areas of Dublin...:(

I voted for SF as they offer the most protection to my professional status within the Civil Service...
 

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No need Kev. I did so with my eyes wide open. I regret the loss of control of the thug culture in the North and in many areas of Dublin...:(

I voted for SF as they offer the most protection to my professional status within the Civil Service...

Could it also be that they are the only party with policies that can see further than austerity...
 

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I agree its a valid argument, but why do you need a SF statement to start a thread on it? I do believe all of the above are connected.
Why do I need a Sinn Féin statement to start a debate about Anti-Social Behavior? I actually don't, but it just so happens that the silence has been deafening from most other quarters.. And there's a reason for this, which is quite simple.. It's the same reason that Dessie Ellis highlighted the fact that Ireland has a serious homeless problem, or quite similar, insofar as these people are merely reflecting what's going on on the ground in working class areas.. The Labor Party members mustn't have members living in either Finglas or North Clondalkin, or else they's be aware of what's going on.. You could apply that logic across the board.. Howcome we've got identical stats in areas like Finglas and North Clondalkin, as what we had in the Inner-City of Dublin in the early 1980s.. In 2023 we could have the same stats in West Clondalkin.. 55%+ Unemployment, kids leaving school when they're 15, a lot of whom commit suicide before they're 25, or die anonymously in some lane or park somewhere, and don't even become a statistic.. How can 10,000 die in the space of two decades, and no one even noticed.. Because I gaurantee you that's in and around the figure that's going to come up, when both deaths from addiction and suicide are calculated from the period 1990 onwards, like the way the inner-city communitys are calculating each and every death, name and address.. That's a fukn genocide, imho, my socialist friend..
 

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Three knee cappings would soon put the thugs back in order... But SF/IRA are too busy administering British Rule in the 6 eh..? :D
If someone attacks your property, or your family, obviously you're going to defend it, or them, but ultimately violence won't actually solve anything, imo.. It most certainly shouldn't be a 'tactic' or even part of a 'strategy'.. But I wouldn't condemn anyone for self-defence..

The onus isn't on Sinn Féin members, or anyone from the wider Republican family to carry out punishment beatings.. Most progressive Republicans have reached that conclusion a long time ago.. Indeed, the RSF newspaper Saoirse actually carried a statement recently condemning such behavior as Barbaric, and Anti-Republican. Imo, they were right to do so..
 

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If someone attacks your property, or your family, obviously you're going to defend it, or them, but ultimately violence won't actually solve anything, imo.. It most certainly shouldn't be a 'tactic' or even part of a 'strategy'.. But I wouldn't condemn anyone for self-defence..

The onus isn't on Sinn Féin members, or anyone from the wider Republican family to carry out punishment beatings.. Most progressive Republicans have reached that conclusion a long time ago.. Indeed, the RSF newspaper Saoirse actually carried a statement recently condemning such behavior as Barbaric, and Anti-Republican. Imo, they were right to do so..
All the while society is breaking down as they collect their pay offs from MI5......
 

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All the while society is breaking down as they collect their pay offs from MI5......
What makes you think that MI5 are still active in Ireland? Does that suspicion point towards the south as well? If so, who do you think that they would target, and why? Will they for example target a few beer bellys, or would their 'agent provocateurs' target the younger generation, by egging them on? Given that the CIA once believed that the most dangerous internal threat to the United States was in fact the Black Panthers Breakfast Programme for kids, and not their 'guns'.. Do you think they would/wouldn't be more afraid of the Politics of Irish Republicanism, rather than the Guns? One bad apple could rot an entire barrel, as one would say..
 
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