Sinn Fein Surge to Victory. The SDLP Should Now Shut Up Shop and Leave the Field.

TruthInTheNews

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Sinn Fein are now the largest Nationalist Party in the North. The SF victory is an emphatic vindication of the Armalite and ballot box strategy espoused by Martin Guinness which collapsed the Unionist regime and resulted in the Good Friday Agreement, a victory for Irish Nationalism.

Constitutional Nationalism as practised by the SDLP failed to deliver Nationalist aspirations. The SDLP should now leave the field of battle and allow SF to gain in strength from an undivided Nationalist vote in preparation for the final struggle with the Unionist foe. SF should meet SDLP voters half way by moving to the centre of politics where elections are won and dropping some of their ultra left wing policies such as unrestricted abortion.
 


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The SF victory is an emphatic vindication of the Armalite and ballot box strategy espoused by Martin Guinness which collapsed the Unionist regime and resulted in the Good Friday Agreement, a victory for Irish Nationalism.
That Guinness chap (whoever he is) must be a mighty man with balls of steel.

I doff my bowler hat to him.
 

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Sinn Fein are now the largest Nationalist Party in the North. The SF victory is an emphatic vindication of the Armalite and ballot box strategy espoused by Martin Guinness which collapsed the Unionist regime and resulted in the Good Friday Agreement, a victory for Irish Nationalism.

Constitutional Nationalism as practised by the SDLP failed to deliver Nationalist aspirations. The SDLP should now leave the field of battle and allow SF to gain in strength from an undivided Nationalist vote in preparation for the final struggle with the Unionist foe. SF should meet SDLP voters half way by moving to the centre of politics where elections are won and dropping some of their ultra left wing policies such as unrestricted abortion.
Er twas Danny Morrison ye daft eejit, and as for the GFA shin Flake ran away from power sharing because a wee fermamagh cutty was beatch slapping them, which leads us onto Nigel Dodds as de facto deputy PM of UKGBNI, yehhooo ye bay ye...
 

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no sympathy for the SDLP.
they have handed seats to the Unionists & prevented themselves from winning seats for decades now by refusing to make electoral arrangements with SF.
they had one such arrangement when the great Bobby Sands was elected in that historical election.
but, they got such abuse from the political/establishment in the South, that it spooked them from having more such arrangements,
& they have been the losers,
& the Unionists have been the winners.
 

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Er twas Danny Morrison ye daft eejit, and as for the GFA shin Flake ran away from power sharing because a wee fermamagh cutty was beatch slapping them, which leads us onto Nigel Dodds as de facto deputy PM of UKGBNI, yehhooo ye bay ye...
Good. The Unionists can always be relied upon to shoot themselves in the head.

A hard Brexit and a hard border will accelerate the unification process. Bring it on!
 

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Good. The Unionists can always be relied upon to shoot themselves in the head.

A hard Brexit and a hard border will accelerate the unification process. Bring it on!
Seeing as ye can't tell the difference between Morrison and McGuiness ( ye muppet) Moi NAT be losing any sleep over yer predictions...
 

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Was a pleasure to listen to the bitter whinging of Durkan and Alban (aka Ali Mac)


 

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The SDLP need to put the country first. They should do the right thing and disband.

SF are the only legitimate representatives of Nationalist Ireland and have been since 1918.

The more moderate nationalist SDLP lost all three of its seats in a humiliating defeat which has sparked, perhaps prematurely, predictions of an existential crisis in its ranks.

No loss wounded the SDLP more than in Foyle, the party's cradle and home of founder and Nobel Peace Laureate John Hume, a revered figure in Derry.

Elisha McCallion's shock snatch of the seat, with a razor-thin margin of 169 seats, is being celebrated as a seismic, game-changing advance for Sinn Fein.


Gerry Adams: Referendum on Irish unity now inevitable after General Election results - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
 

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The SDLP need to put the country first. They should do the right thing and disband.

SF are the only legitimate representatives of Nationalist Ireland and have been since 1918.

The more moderate nationalist SDLP lost all three of its seats in a humiliating defeat which has sparked, perhaps prematurely, predictions of an existential crisis in its ranks.

No loss wounded the SDLP more than in Foyle, the party's cradle and home of founder and Nobel Peace Laureate John Hume, a revered figure in Derry.

Elisha McCallion's shock snatch of the seat, with a razor-thin margin of 169 seats, is being celebrated as a seismic, game-changing advance for Sinn Fein.


Gerry Adams: Referendum on Irish unity now inevitable after General Election results - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Tis that thon Djarryango who promised yez the mythological utopian UI by 2016...
 

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Exactly
Duer to the unfairness of the FPTP system, it makes sense that the SDLP should quit
Its a shít system anyway
 

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The SDLP should remain, even just to keep Sinn Féin in line.

Sinn Féin can judge how well they are doing by comparing their position to the SDLP. If there is no nationalist alternative, it would be much harder for Sinn Féin to gauge when they might be losing touch with the electorate.

A decline in support for the SDLP suggests Sinn Féin are on the ball, but without any future SDLP surge, they would be likely to get complacent and take the votes for granted.
 

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I agree. The SDLP are required to keep SF from getting complacent. There are still quite a number of nationalists that vote SDLP that will never vote for SF. These people need an option at the ballot box.
 

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The SDLP should remain, even just to keep Sinn Féin in line.

Sinn Féin can judge how well they are doing by comparing their position to the SDLP. If there is no nationalist alternative, it would be much harder for Sinn Féin to gauge when they might be losing touch with the electorate.

A decline in support for the SDLP suggests Sinn Féin are on the ball, but without any future SDLP surge, they would be likely to get complacent and take the votes for granted.

West Belfast gave them a wake-up call and voted PBP. Sinn Féin stopped bending over and the voters went back to them. They need no political party to keep them in check their electorate will do that.
 

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Without going too deeply into it -it seems to me that Scottish independence is finished, Irish unity is a long way off and a hard Brexit is perhaps fading. All of these three trends re-enforce each other, No point in a Border Poll in these conditions.
 

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Great to see the Stoop down lower party wiped.

They only held a couple of seats because of Loyalists voting to keep SF out.

The problem going forward is Labour are real contenders next election in the UK. The Stoops will be out campaigning saying they could be real important as Lab get closer to the magic number of seats and the public might believe it. Hopefully not.
 

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pardon me, if you are a northern nationalist, and also a staunch Christian conservative, and therefore anti abortion and one who believes in the traditional marriage, and perhaps therefore by nature also anti immigrant( or easy on immigration as per SF)...if SDLP disappears, what party I am left to vote for?......on the constitutional issue, SF is the option, but on the Christian conservative angle DUP are the call......

the rub of the above, is that one day the border poll may emerge, and a crucial percentage of the nationalist community may not tick the box for independence and the lack of a nationalist party upholding Christian conservative ideas could be a contributor to the poll failure.

I am not a northerner, yet meet many from diverse backgrounds from the region every month. I would split the Catholic/Nationalist community into 2 groups, the "liberals(prepared to run with the SF program) and the conservatives(who vote SDLP or other, as they abhor the SF liberal policy).............if you take the SDLP out, where do these voters turn?....I suspect the split is 70-30 between group 1 and group 2.......that 30% of group 2 will splinter and a small percentage by vote SF, holding their noses, but a decent percentage of the nationalist vote will migrate to the "others" and as a result you might find, in a post SDLP northern Ireland, the nationalist headcount(relying solely on SF) may drop from the current 41-45%, back to 40% or less.

the SFers may seek the territory for themselves, in doing so, they could put the cause back decades.
 


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