Sinn féin to table no confidance motion with left wing indo's "technical group"

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Have read that Sinn Féin are seeking to form a "Technical group" with Independants, Finian McGrath and Maureen O Sullivan. This would actually force Labour and Fine Gael to vote either for or against the Coward Cowen.
Sinn Féin would get huge Kudos from such a move , Go for it !!
 


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Have read that Sinn Féin are seeking to form a "Technical group" with Independants, Finian McGrath and Maureen O Sullivan. This would actually force Labour and Fine Gael to vote either for or against the Coward Cowen.
Sinn Féin would get huge Kudos from such a move , Go for it !!
Again I hate to say it, but well done SF!
 

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Apparently the second Pearse Doherty was elected Sinn Féin were on the phone to Finian McGrath and Marureen O'Sullivan to seek such a deal.

That was a few days ago though, did Finian and Maureen agree to enter into a Technical Group?
 

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Apparently the second Pearse Doherty was elected Sinn Féin were on the phone to Finian McGrath and Marureen O'Sullivan to seek such a deal.

That was a few days ago though, did Finian and Maureen agree to enter into a Technical Group?
I hope so. Never have we needed an opposition. FG/Lab are not unfortunately doing this
 

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Apparently the second Pearse Doherty was elected Sinn Féin were on the phone to Finian McGrath and Marureen O'Sullivan to seek such a deal.

That was a few days ago though, did Finian and Maureen agree to enter into a Technical Group?
That is the 85 billion Euro question!
 

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Have read that Sinn Féin are seeking to form a "Technical group" with Independants, Finian McGrath and Maureen O Sullivan. This would actually force Labour and Fine Gael to vote either for or against the Coward Cowen.
Sinn Féin would get huge Kudos from such a move , Go for it !!
Labour will vote N/C and Fine Gael will abstain. Labour can say they did their best and FG will claim that while they wish to see the government thrown out, they see the importance for stability in the country in this time of crisis. Both win. SF lose.
 

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Labour will vote N/C and Fine Gael will abstain. Labour can say they did their best and FG will claim that while they wish to see the government thrown out, they see the importance for stability in the country in this time of crisis. Both win. SF lose.
If thats the way it happens then FG are no better than FF.
 

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Apparently the second Pearse Doherty was elected Sinn Féin were on the phone to Finian McGrath and Marureen O'Sullivan to seek such a deal.

That was a few days ago though, did Finian and Maureen agree to enter into a Technical Group?
McGrath done a U-turn on Lisbon and is firmly in the 'my patch is alright Jack' mindset. Wouldn't count on him at all to do anything on this.
 

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Labour will vote N/C and Fine Gael will abstain. Labour can say they did their best and FG will claim that while they wish to see the government thrown out, they see the importance for stability in the country in this time of crisis. Both win. SF lose.
FG should beware of collaborating with FF treachery.
 

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Some one here must have an insight to the answer , did the Shinners talk to them, and what is the present state of play, come on, SF ers. Let us know.
Ireland awaits !!! It can't be that difficult to negeotiate, FF have Feck all to offer both indo's at this stage, and if they say NO to SF request they are de facto supporting the Gov. .......If SF tell the country that they, (the Indo's) refused to back a no confidance motion. then it won't go down well in their constituencies !!
 

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FG should beware of collaborating with FF treachery.
They know they'll come in for stick for abstaining, but they'll spin their way around it and it won't be an issue for them come GE time. Even though technically it is complicity, they can wash their hands of it quickly.
 

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They know they'll come in for stick for abstaining, but they'll spin their way around it and it won't be an issue for them come GE time. Even though technically it is complicity, they can wash their hands of it quickly.
Only if we let them , !!!
 

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They know they'll come in for stick for abstaining, but they'll spin their way around it and it won't be an issue for them come GE time. Even though technically it is complicity, they can wash their hands of it quickly.
No, time is past for that. They will suffer hugely if they give into this.
 

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No, time is past for that. They will suffer hugely if they give into this.
The time that that sort of mendacity could be spun positively is long gone. Now, it would be viewed as collusion. How could SF lose? If Doherty can somehow use his maiden speech to the Dail to propose a motion of no confidence in Cowen, the momentum SF would get from that is huge. SF have been the most effective opposition in the Dail in the last 3 months. FG and Labour seem remarkably reluctant to rock the boat, as if they are expecting power to fall to them like an apple off a tree. I think the time for that is gone too. The next GE will be a dogfight in every constituency.
 

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The time that that sort of mendacity could be spun positively is long gone. Now, it would be viewed as collusion. How could SF lose? If Doherty can somehow use his maiden speech to the Dail to propose a motion of no confidence in Cowen, the momentum SF would get from that is huge. SF have been the most effective opposition in the Dail in the last 3 months. FG and Labour seem remarkably reluctant to rock the boat, as if they are expecting power to fall to them like an apple off a tree. I think the time for that is gone too. The next GE will be a dogfight in every constituency.
FG have been sitting on their hands for months if not years...they should be given the same lick of the brush by the electorate as FF are going to get...

These civil war moronic parties need to be given the heave ho once and for all...
 

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so sick of FG & Labour's dissembling on this. On the one hand they are saying how bad the deal is, how it won't work etc. On the other Rabbitte on RTE now is saying that the deal will put the next gvt in a straitjacket. If the deal is so sh1t why not promise to reverse it???
 

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Rabbitte now saying next gvt can't change the deal because it's a solemn agreement blah blah blah. Completely ignoring the fact that the IMF/EU are allowed stop giving us money if we break any of the conditions in the deal which is one easy way of getting us out of it legally. Once that happens we can burn the bondholders.
 

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Labour will vote N/C and Fine Gael will abstain. Labour can say they did their best and FG will claim that while they wish to see the government thrown out, they see the importance for stability in the country in this time of crisis. Both win. SF lose.
I think that you are correct that Labour will vote against and FG abstain. The question is how will FG activists view this inertia? At least Labour are going through the motions of being an oppositon party. What are FG doing? Why isn't Enda dominating the airwaves?
 

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Fine Gael will abstain on any vote, the deal is done,This is where we are.
 


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