Sinn Féin Unveil Irish Unity Conference

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Sinn Féin Unveil Important Irish Unity Conference

http://www.londonirishunityconference.org/resources/london-irish-unity-conference-flyer.pdf

Sinn Féin have unveiled an important conference on Irish Unity to be held in London. Speakers include unionists as well as a very wide range of highly influential interested parties drawn from public life. The conference will set out the case for Irish unity, discuss the issues, and set Irish Unity firmly right at the very top of the public policy agenda once and for all.

This is the latest important initiative in Sinn Féin's Task Force on Irish Unity as headed up by Pearce Doherty and Mary Lou McDonald.

Mary Lou and Pearce, and Sinn Féin more generally, deserve a credit for this initiative.
 
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Making the case for Irish unity in London is pointless. It's the Prods that have to be persuaded (or out-bred)...


Not really as the demographics are changing..... Sinn Fein have to move the Irish unity question forward as they are the only political party genuinely interested in moving it forward.
 

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Why London, you should start in Dublin. This will be a huge Issue coming to 2016 and SF have the torch for this at the moment, I think they shoul have a conference in Dublin, a lot of people view SF as havin the lead on a united Ireland.
 

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Not a bad line up, but no one from the Tories?

3 Labour MPs and a former Labour MP, is that not a bit of an overkill for a party that looks like it is heading into opposition.

However never any harm in discussion and dialogue.
 

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Not really as the demographics are changing..... Sinn Fein have to move the Irish unity question forward as they are the only political party genuinely interested in moving it forward.
Not being smart, but is there data on that. Among the growing Catholic middle class, would they really want a United Ireland. Does anyone know if we in the Republic would need a referendum to agree to it as well?
 

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Not being smart, but is there data on that. Among the growing Catholic middle class, would they really want a United Ireland. Does anyone know if we in the Republic would need a referendum to agree to it as well?
We would of course. It would obviously be merely a formality, however.
 

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Why London, you should start in Dublin.
SF probobly wanted to take it somewhere outside the north where people might be interested.

Unity is a while off yet, we need to get to work with slimming down the public sector up here and paving the way for investment.
People in the south dont see potential, they dont care about how fast Belfast is growing, Titanic quarter etc, highest education standards etc.
They cant see what could happen, they just want to know that they wont have to pay 10 euro a week more in tax to pay for it in the short term.
We wont get any major investment until we can get out of the UK and control our own policies , and the south will oppose unification until we get major investment.
Its a viscious circle.
I have heard from many American economists on radio and tv interviews that the north has huge potential, especially in the I.T sector.
One claimed that Belfast could be a new 'Silicon Valley'.
The north needs out of the UK, it holds the most intelligent students in the UK and Ireland yet the taxation fiscal policies etc. are a brick wall blocking investment.
 
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You've to pay in?

I'll be in London that weekend, might go for a nosey.
 
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Why would anyone want to unify with an entity that has such a mediocre standard of healthcare provision, taking all the worst bits of American healthcare and calling that a role-model? Why would they want to join with a state that has consistently elected thieves and charlatans to power, being essentially an organised criminal conspiracy for large portions of time, and kept electing them long after it was obvious that they were such? Talk of unity is premature until you create something worth unifying with...
 

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lol-come off it. The people of the 26 counties are better educated than those in the 6 counties - I would argue.
That's because you think we all live in a slum of our own making, but dont recognise that the economic problems here stem from partition and not the people.
Some SF'er you are.

Northern Ireland has consistantly outclassed Britain and the Republic when it comes to education results.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8223855.stm
Northern Ireland's students are still the best performers, with 75.1% of entries gaining A* to C grades and 27.1% gaining As or A*s.

The region has one of the youngest populations in Europe and educational achievements are high, with students consistently performing well above other UK regions at GCSE and A-Level.
http://www.investni.com/print/reasons_to_invest_in_northern_ireland-3.pdf

The Republic attracts investment away from the north with things like corporation tax which is about 3 times lower.
This leaves the north at a serious disadvantage as businesses only go where they can mazimise profit, as the north is such an expensive place to invest compared to the south it simply cant compete.
The British then flood the place with pointless Public sector jobs and hand outs, but we dont need them we need to run our own country and sort out the problems instead of covering them up with subsidies.

The most highly educated youth of these islands, yet a basket case economy.
Northern Ireland is a completely failed entity with massive potential, it's important that people acknowledge this and leave behind the old predjudices of the past.
Unionism wants us to be dependent on handouts, and greatful for them
Unionism wants to degrade us and make people believe that we are better off by being controlled and dragged into an unsuitable economy with unsuitable policies which simply dont work.

If you are an Irish Republican then its about time you started showing respect to the people of the north, we are not a charity case we merely want to control our country which has been mismanaged and abused for too long,we want to control our future and a have chance to open up our potential.
 
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those links show people in the north are better educated than people in britain. I doubt people in the north are better educated than people in the south.

Take the leaving cert (6/7 subjects) and compare them to the piss easy A levels (3 subjects)
 

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those links show people in the north are better educated than people in britain. I doubt people in the north are better educated than people in the south.

Take the leaving cert (6/7 subjects) and compare them to the piss easy A levels (3 subjects)
Well said.
 

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A reminder that this important conference - with inclusive participation from across the spectrum - takes place tomorrow in London so if you can make it to London tomorrow or are passing through give it a look in. Conference website is here:London Irish Unity Conference - Home

If you are unable to attend then you can still read some of the exciting discussion and writing that the conference has generated: London Irish Unity Conference - Articles

This is the latest initiative of the Sinn Féin Task Force on Irish Unity.
 

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Michael Collins should never have signed that bit of paper for Lyod George, it caused a lot of trouble
 


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