Sinn Fein website - "IRA statements"

Northtipp

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Brilliant. Gotta good laugh tho for a Monday. Whats that sound? Oh yeh its the sound of the shovel scraping the bottom of the barrel. Thats its lads get the crap out. Bloody Shinners coming up with real solutions. We will teach them. now if Adams just hadnt started them snow falls the county would be in better shape.

Desperation from the failures it would seem
 


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I think they should try and change their IRA image. Its one that has held them back now for decades.
 

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The first website shown by google when searching for Sinn Fein is (understandably), the party's official website. What is not understandable for a party seeking major political gains in the upcoming general election is why "IRA statements" appears prominently as a subsection under the main heading. Do Sinn Fein think that reminding people that they are the political wing of the IRA is a winning electoral formula?
Is there an election on the way or something?
 
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Duth Ealla

The first website shown by google when searching for Sinn Fein is (understandably), the party's official website. What is not understandable for a party seeking major political gains in the upcoming general election is why "IRA statements" appears prominently as a subsection under the main heading. Do Sinn Fein think that reminding people that they are the political wing of the IRA is a winning electoral formula?
:rolleyes: the only problem for you lot is that you have done all this before yet want it to keep on working.

As an aside what the hell is understandable about the Sinn Fein website being the first when you search for Sinn Fein. Its not guaranteed in any way. But it made for a nice rhetorical device for you.

Weak as piss thread.
 
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Duth Ealla

Of course not, but the IRA is supposed to have "gone away" and people seeing "IRA statements" will remind them of the bad old days of bombings and murders.
ah sound and there I thought you were making a dull partisan point but instead you only wanted to help. Fair play to you.
 

fluffykontbiscuits

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ah sound and there I thought you were making a dull partisan point but instead you only wanted to help. Fair play to you.
Its a bit akin to Fianna Fail posting links to the tribunals.....fair play skyrocket I for one wont be voting for them and to the rest of the Fianna Failures and Shinners supporters, you bleat on about being an alternative and that there is very little links anymore to the IRA yet the lad points out something worthwhile? Tut tut I take it the Shinners PR Machine is going to make its home here in the run up the January elections?
 
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SeamusNapoleon

Its a bit akin to Fianna Fail posting links to the tribunals.....fair play skyrocket I for one wont be voting for them and to the rest of the Fianna Failures and Shinners supporters, you bleat on about being an alternative and that there is very little links anymore to the IRA yet the lad points out something worthwhile? Tut tut I take it the Shinners PR Machine is going to make its home here in the run up the January elections?
:p

Can you imagine the joy the likes of this fella would have if Sinn Féin had no IRA links on their site: 'HYPOCRITES!' they would shout.
 

fluffykontbiscuits

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Interesting how this has rattled SF supporters so much
No doubt we will get the populist attitude that we are a "viable alternative" etc etc etc. Slab is going on an anti Brit rant against the left , wonder is it in response to this thread?
 

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I think they should try and change their IRA image. Its one that has held them back now for decades.
OTOH, people who haven't been totally polluted by 40 years of state- & self- censorship might, just might, begin to think: what a contrast between the self-sacrifice of the likes of Vol Martin Doherty [who gave his life to save 400 others], and Greedy Galway-tent Gougers like FFitzy & FFingers, not to mention Fat Gut Sutherland & Dick Spring [& his Anglo son]. Good thread;)
 
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Interesting how this has rattled SF supporters so much
Yes I am rattled. If an independent newspaper with a large readership could publish such a claim on oh lets say a Sunday then this could rock Irish politics to its core and push any talk about 10 billion a year in interest off the front page.

You have me rattled. The only question left to answer is are you Woodward or Bernstein or maybe that should be rosencrantz or guildenstern
 

fluffykontbiscuits

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Yes I am rattled. If an independent newspaper with a large readership could publish such a claim on oh lets say a Sunday then this could rock Irish politics to its core and push any talk about 10 billion a year in interest off the front page.

You have me rattled. The only question left to answer is are you Woodward or Bernstein or maybe that should be rosencrantz or guildenstern

IRA Statements | Sinn Féin

lol you couldnt make this up

IRA Easter Message 2004 | Sinn Féin

"The leadership of Óglaigh na hÉireann extends fraternal greetings to all Volunteers, to republican activists and to our supporters and friends at home and abroad.

We send solidarity greetings to our imprisoned comrades and their families. On this, the 88th anniversary of the 1916 Rising, we especially remember our patriot dead and extend solidarity to their families. We commemorate the freedom fighters of all generations who have given their lives for Irish freedom.
Should they not have stuck in a P.S. Sorry for murdering kids and dealing drugs somewhere in there?
 

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I think they should try and change their IRA image. Its one that has held them back now for decades.
I disagree. Given people's general anti-establishment sympathies (now very much in the ascendancy) and their romanticised view of nationalist freedom fighters their connection with the IRA is probably their strongest selling suit. Most Irish would have at least a smidgeon of respect and admiration for how they fought the British for decades at a time when our elected officials seemed all too often ready to roll over at the behest of the British gov't. To be fair to our elected gov'ts though it should be pointed out that freedom of word and deed is one of the advantages accruing from being a shadowy organisation rather than a respected member of the community of nations.

However; God help SF if they had to fight an election on a platform based purely on their outmoded and discredited Marxist ideology in this day and age. I suspect SF would much rather field questions on their links to the IRA than on their proposed 25% corporation tax and their 'profits are unpaid wages' philosophy.
 
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It's funny how all the people who try to bluster about SF's "scary outdated crazy Marxist economic policies" were all cheerleaders for the property porn, deregulating banks, irresponsible fiscal and monetary policies, and rampant corruption of the last 15 years. Cos that worked out so well, eh?

While throughout the same period SF had such wild-eyed far-out scary Marxist economic policies as regulating banks, controlling housing bubbles, staying out of the Euro and focusing on building up indigenous export industry in preference to a slavish dependence on foreign tax dodges. Sure if we'd had any truck with that auld SF crazy talk we'd be insolvent now with the IMF running the place.

Oh wait.
 

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It's funny how all the people who try to bluster about SF's "scary outdated crazy Marxist economic policies" were all cheerleaders for the property porn, deregulating banks, irresponsible fiscal and monetary policies, and rampant corruption of the last 15 years. Cos that worked out so well, eh?

While throughout the same period SF had such wild-eyed far-out scary Marxist economic policies as regulating banks, controlling housing bubbles, staying out of the Euro and focusing on building up indigenous export industry in preference to a slavish dependence on foreign tax dodges. Sure if we'd had any truck with that auld SF crazy talk we'd be insolvent now with the IMF running the place.

Oh wait.
A quintessential example of a false dichotomy :rolleyes:

And for your interest I have never been in the slightest degree a supporter of FF's boom and bust 'economic policies' (if a mad dash of personal greed and enrichment can be called that). To coin a phrase FF present the unacceptable face of capitalism. I personally prefer the middle road of liberal socialism.
 
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Interesting how this has rattled SF supporters so much

It was predicted in the aftermath of the Doherty victory that these threads would appear and that any threads positive to SF would be de-railed by the same people. You opened your mouth and in it went hook, line and sinker.
 

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Is that the smell of desperation from the Fianna Failures. Def smells like it. Great stuff
 

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A couple of days ago 50,000 plus Irish people marched to the GPO to protest at political parties been in the bankers and EU's pocket, so on behave of Sinn Fein I'd like to thank you for bringing to the attention of this forum the fact that one political party is proud of Ireland and annually commenerates those who died in the GPO and elsewhere in 1916 and those who have given their lives for Ireland.

You also highlight the fact that those who have sold the country seem ashamed of Pease and Connolly and would never mention them on their Party's websites.

Instead of lecturing others to 'pull on the green jersey' Sinn Fein fly the flag.

Your point is what exactly?

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Sinn Fein would also like to thank yourself and unionists in general who for years corrupted the party's name from 'Ourselves' to 'Ourselves Alone' as ourselves alone has a much better vote winning Tone to it for Ireland at the moment.

Please do post more


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Why would SF remove mention of the IRA from its history, for years the DUP have tried to avoid mention of Ulster Resistance (yet to decommission) not to mention Paisleys other little armed ventures and the UUP have done the same with Ulster Vanguard yet its not won them any love from nationalists, unlike the Deputy FM who got respectable rating from unionists in a newspaper poll last year
 


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