Sinn Féin Youth Member to Speak in House of Commons Chamber

Jakey

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In Irish apparently. Iain Dale has the story Iain Dale's Diary: Sinn Fein Member of the UK Youth Parliament to Speak in House of Commons Chamber (in Gaelic!).

But this story has two twists. Connor Morgan told my assistant, Grant Tucker, yesterday that he would be making a speech during the proceedings today and he would be doing it while speaking Irish Gaelic*. Not only that, but according to Morgan, Mr Speaker Bercow had readily given his permission to do that. If that is true (and I emphasise, IF), it's incredible and will undoubtedly have consequences.

Mr Morgan has a charming turn of phrase. On his Facebook page he says, referring to George Osborne...


Gideon, get off my TV, you're a c*nt.



Of course if young Mr Morgan used that word in the House of Commons today, no one would know, as no one else would be able to understand a word he would be saying.
The young fellow sounds like a bit of a character. What do Sinn Féiners think about this? Appalled at the prospect of a fellow SFer speaking in the Commons or quietly amused?
 


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I'm gonna love watching the SF people on this site explain this one.

*Fetches popcorn and pulls up a chair*
 

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what. is this a joke? a fully paid up member of sf talking in the commons. jesus irish or no irish its a disgrace and furthers my thoughts that the shinners have turned on their own followers and embraced imperialism
 

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I suppose technically, they don't recognise the House of Commons as having jurisdiction over Northern Ireland, so as he's not a member, they could treat it as making a speech to a foreign parliament.
 

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what. is this a joke? a fully paid up member of sf talking in the commons. jesus irish or no irish its a disgrace and furthers my thoughts that the shinners have turned on their own followers and embraced imperialism
I might not be remembering correctly but I think one of the decent Labour MPs actually had some over from Sinn Fein to speak at some meeting in the House of Commons when the armed struggle was being waged. Though I agree with you they have betrayed the cause this in itself isnt treason.
 

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every day i feel a little more let down by the so called republican movement. have all the good leaders died and we are left with smooth talking men of yesterday. Sands, Darkie hughes, keenan, shenna and mairead people who should be here today leading an unrepentant republican movement. i just dont know what to say anymore........
 

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Thanks to the OP for the heads-up, but he/she left out the context of why an a non-MP can today speak in that chamber...

As some of you may already know, the United Kingdom Youth Parliament is debating in the House of Commons Chamber today. The fact it is allowed to sit in the chamber at all is looked upon by traditionalists with some disdain. What I am about to say with fill them not just with disdain, but horror.

The link in the OP has a photo or two of young Master Morgan in fancy dress. I don't know if it's related to the time of year but I imagine it goes down a storm in republican areas when they answer the door at Halloween to be met by 1970s-era RUC.
 

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I suppose technically, they don't recognise the House of Commons as having jurisdiction over Northern Ireland, so as he's not a member, they could treat it as making a speech to a foreign parliament.
thats not an excuse they are an oppressive regime
 

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Quietly amused would be my reaction.

We have no objections to stone and concrete you know. The point of abstentionism is f all to do with a particular building or venue, is about rejecting the rights of a British Parliament to legislate for Ireland. The house of Commons could sit in the Europa hotel and SF still wouldnt take their seats. By the same token that particular room isn't taboo any more than any other rooms in the houses which SF regularly use, or indeed 10 downing st which SF members have regularly visited. Republicanism isnt like witchcraft or anything you know. Hes taking place in a mock parliament in london, where the mock Irish mps regulalry sit, but the venue is not consequential in anyway, it could just as easily have been in a trade union hall.

However...
I do think he may not have been particularly well advised to get involved in such a venture as a UK youth parliament to begin with, the optics of that are iffy, we don't purport to be part of the Uk, and our people stand for election to parliament purely to get a mandate from Irish people, and to put our politics in front of the people, there is never any intention to be a part of the parliament. So to implicitly accept that we are members of the Uk is, welllll.... a bit off message.
But not an unpardonable offence, im sure the young man probably thought in the context of the first part of my post and just assumed that given it wasnt a real parliament than it didnt matter a damn, and hey, maybe it doesnt, its just a bit of diversion at the end of the day.
 

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every day i feel a little more let down by the so called republican movement. have all the good leaders died and we are left with smooth talking men of yesterday. Sands, Darkie hughes, keenan, shenna and mairead people who should be here today leading an unrepentant republican movement. i just dont know what to say anymore........
Ah do me a favour..
 

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My first thoughts were of sympathy for Bercow if he has to oversee the session. The percentage of loons who are going to demand to speak in Irish/Welsh/Scottish/Cornish is probably pretty high. You're pretty much guarenteed a mixture of entitled elitist school kids vs lunatics.
 

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My first thoughts were of sympathy for Bercow if he has to oversee the session. The percentage of loons who are going to demand to speak in Irish/Welsh/Scottish/Cornish is probably pretty high. You're pretty much guarenteed a mixture of entitled elitist school kids vs lunatics.
it should be on tv. what with this being the era of reality tv it is sure to offer some golden moments
 

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every day i feel a little more let down by the so called republican movement. have all the good leaders died and we are left with smooth talking men of yesterday. Sands, Darkie hughes, keenan, shenna and mairead people who should be here today leading an unrepentant republican movement. i just dont know what to say anymore........

I suppose we must accept what the people of the North have voted for. after all the electorate are the boss.
 

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I suppose we must accept what the people of the North have voted for. after all the electorate are the boss.
ya i suppose it is democracy but are sinn fein putting forward credable republican candidates from families with a history in the movement or are they courting middle class well educated intelligent young guns to be the future of the party.
 

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every day i feel a little more let down by the so called republican movement. have all the good leaders died and we are left with smooth talking men of yesterday. Sands, Darkie hughes, keenan, shenna and mairead people who should be here today leading an unrepentant republican movement. i just dont know what to say anymore........
Said he from the comfort of a Commonwealth country. Feeling oppressed are we ?:shock2:
 

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ya i suppose it is democracy but are sinn fein putting forward credable republican candidates from families with a history in the movement or are they courting middle class well educated intelligent young guns to be the future of the party.
Mary Lou might well be middle class but the words intelligent dont come to mind when you think about her....;)
 
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Jesus Christ this is horrific.

I don't care if it's in Irish. What the hell were they thinking?
 


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