Sky's interest in the GAA good or bad?

Disillusioned democrat

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I'm not sure whether this is the right thread or not, but wondering what people think about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI0rTOmEZyU

Do people see this as an overdue friendly inclusion of Ireland and Irish sports into the UK mainstream or a patronising opportunistic attempt to fill in Sky's traditional quiet season by poking fun at Irish sporing culture?
 


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I'm not a GAA fan per se but I think they should not have been allowed sell any exclusive rights to Sky, or anyone else for that matter. People talk of GAA position in society and use it as an excuse to shovel barrel loads of taxpayers money at them. Then they exclude truck loads of Irish people from viewing many games.

This attitude of the GAA is what turns me off them and why I'm no fan.
 

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I don't watch much sports myself but I know what it means to people and the GAA is an organisation that depends absolutely on volunteers working for free, if Skys involvement means that any of the people who watch it can no longer watch it without paying then that seems unacceptable to me.
They don't need the money anyway, what is this extra dosh going to be spent on?
Is the GAA going down the FAI, UEFA, FIFA, Olympics direction where all the non-sports suits and blazers enrich themselves?
 

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Going down the direction? Seriously?
 

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Giving Sky exclusive rights to some of the games has alienated many older fans, a lot who dont have Sky, it doesnt seem right to me.
 

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I'm not a GAA fan per se but I think they should not have been allowed sell any exclusive rights to Sky, or anyone else for that matter. People talk of GAA position in society and use it as an excuse to shovel barrel loads of taxpayers money at them. Then they exclude truck loads of Irish people from viewing many games.

This attitude of the GAA is what turns me off them and why I'm no fan.
If tey take the Sky money then the public money must go. I think that should be a non-negotiable from the govt. How long is left in the contract?
They can sell foreign rights to Sky but RTE or domestic TV must have rights to show whatever match they want. Lots of auld lads and retired people who can't afford to pay for Sky sports.
 

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Kilkenny v Waterford, was one of the games of the year. The fact was only available on subscription service in Ireland was a disgrace. It is a slap in the face of the volunteering and community ethos of the GAA. The attitude of the senior officials is worrying, as they refuse to consider any democratic discussion viewing it purely in commercial terms. Bring back TV3 than Sky's awful coverage.
 

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Jeff Stelling and Chris Kamara -the finest English Gentlemen you could get.

Jeff should be a Sir Jeff for his role on Sky Sports.
There's nothing to fear from Gaelic Games on Sky Sports apart from the "professional" debate etc.

You forget that Irish people are everywhere in all parts of English society these days. It's natural that the English would be curious to our customs and sporting heritage.
 

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Going down the direction? Seriously?
Just link your previous posts, there's no need to rewrite them. (Short version: the gaa is as bad as football's commercialism, football's community volunteerism is as good as the gaa but without the smugness)
 

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Jeff Stelling and Chris Kamara -the finest English Gentlemen you could get.

Jeff should be a Sir Jeff for his role on Sky Sports.
There's nothing to fear from Gaelic Games on Sky Sports apart from the "professional" debate etc.

You forget that Irish people are everywhere in all parts of English society these days. It's natural that the English would be curious to our customs and sporting heritage.
They seem like nice chaps (so did Richard Keyes) but that isn't the point. The GAA is a volunteer organisation.
I hate this commoditisation of everything, why must fncking money always be made for someone?
 
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They seem like nice chaps (so did Richard Keyes) but that isn't the point. The GAA is a volunteer organisation.
I hate this commoditisation of everything, why must fncking money always be made for someone?
All sports depend on volunteers at grassroots level.
 

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it will wake up their **** supporters

show them that the GAA want money and FA else
 
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Jeff Stelling and Chris Kamara -the finest English Gentlemen you could get.

Jeff should be a Sir Jeff for his role on Sky Sports.
There's nothing to fear from Gaelic Games on Sky Sports apart from the "professional" debate etc.

You forget that Irish people are everywhere in all parts of English society these days. It's natural that the English would be curious to our customs and sporting heritage.
Sky has had a huge negative impact on participation levels in cricket since they bought the sport. They have also blocked plans to reorganize the international schedule as well as completely redrawing the schedule for the domestic game. All to satisfy their advertisers.
 

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They seem like nice chaps (so did Richard Keyes) but that isn't the point. The GAA is a volunteer organisation.
I hate this commoditisation of everything, why must fncking money always be made for someone?
The GAA may be a 'volunteer organisation ' (What sports aren't by the way) but that doesn't mean it runs itself for free. They had an asset sky were willing to purchase. If they had kept it terrestrial there would be a lot of money left on the table. That meant stuff that is being done or will be done wouldn't have. How do you propose to plug this gap?
 

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in my experience the majority of GAA people in rural areas are odious

they are in it for the money and they don't like anyone asking questions
 

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Jeff Stelling and Chris Kamara -the finest English Gentlemen you could get.

Jeff should be a Sir Jeff for his role on Sky Sports.
There's nothing to fear from Gaelic Games on Sky Sports apart from the "professional" debate etc.

You forget that Irish people are everywhere in all parts of English society these days. It's natural that the English would be curious to our customs and sporting heritage.
Then do a deal and allow it to be shown on the BBC,ITV or Channel 4 etc and not just the NI versions the odd time for the big games......

The ethos of the GAA is it is a community based amateur organization they shouldn't be doing deals with Murdoch....
 
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most popular sport in the world is soccer

3.9 billion watched the world cup
And your point is?

Cricket is considered to be in the top three global sports.
 

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Giving Sky exclusive rights to some of the games has alienated many older fans, a lot who dont have Sky, it doesnt seem right to me.
I am of the "fundamentalist wing" of the GAA being generally opposed to , in no particular order,
1. the GPA
2. the rise of the "professional" intercounty manager
3. the transition of third level gaa from a participatory activity to something akin to US college sports - depsite drop of of players in teh 18-22 age bracket being a huge problem for the GAA
4. the decoupling of the club and intercounty games incl. the blatant disregard of the largest county population wise, dublin,for its adult club game despite the $$$$$s pumped into the games development at underage level
5. The presence & influence of a number of employess of the GAA on the commercial side who, will undoutedly good at their jobs prime scope , are not , it appears , of a mind to place the ethos of association front and center in all matters

I am also no fan in principle of Sky having any games. The fact that of the 5 million people on the island they couldnt find even 1 of 2 co-presenters who had the slightest hint of a GAA background or understanding highlights their deficiencies.

Also the croke park played a transparently duplicitous game at the time in regard to the rationale. The only reason sky got games is to keep RTE honest. Without Sky bidding as a realistic bidder RTE would low ball the GAA , as they & other media outlets low balled them in regard to coverage over the preceding decades. While the actual GAA journo's in RTE have been part of the fabric of association since Michael O hehirs time I think folks forget that when crooke park walks into a room to negotiate with RTE its Ryle Nugent and other such heads & accents that are across the table.............again the historic coverage of the games highlights this.....TnaG came along and I think folks in RTE only then realized league games and even senior club games get '000's at them and '000s watching ......

So I have some sympathy with the strategy but they should have been honest. i have sympathy, btw, because in spite of the above listed issues the majority of funding still goes to legitimate and valuable costs related to the running & development of the association.

But back to the comment - while I have no love of the sky deal and would rather it did not happen, it does grind my gears a little bit when
1) folks who clearly despise the association use it as a rod to beat the GAA with ....why should they care? they already clearly buy the grossly distorted myth of the "grab all association" and think of the GAA as some cabal in croke park rather than an organization that is fairly flat and compact from top to bottom.

2) Folks who claim to be real GAA people crying over it as if it represents the biggest bad decision or issue there is .......I'm a real GAA person , I 've played all my life at every level of the game , in multiple counties and continents, I've been a club and county board level officer............I'm also not that old (late 30's).........i remember when there were only 3 hurling matches and 3 football matches on TV live all year.......I also think there are dozens of more fundamental issues that WE the GAA should address first issues which , unlike the sky deal ,via the direct sky sourced and indirect RTE sourced revenue,do not have any silver linings.....
 

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Roberto, you're not so much fundamentalist as somewhat tribalist. You've spent almost as much space in your last post criticising people expressing opinions as you did on fundamental issues of An CLG (one of which is commercialism). Your gaa purity is noted.
 


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