Slaughter of Ponies/Horses

Green eyed monster

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Over the last few months i have read of quite a few horrific killings of these animals, especially around the Leinster area, one theory is that with the disgraceful cheapness and lack of regulation that has always surrounded their trade - that with the recession people are abandoning or killing animals they no longer want to care for.

Just recently another pony had it's throat cut, experts say it would have died an agonising death. A few weeks ago there was a picture of a burnt donkey (they didn't know if it had been alive at the time of burning or not) and just after Christmas there was an attempted burning of a dying pony by some sick juveniles.

Warning to public after sadistic slaughter of pony - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

Isn't it time to shut down cheap horse trading fairs and properly regulate the sale and care of these poor creatures? There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates) and the level of care i have witnessed is far from adequate.
 


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No creature should be killed in a cruel manner and buying an animal should be regarded as a responsibility.

At the risk of sounding stupid why go to the bother of killing them and trying to dispose of the bodies? Why not just let them loose?
 

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Over the last few months i have read of quite a few horrific killings of these animals, especially around the Leinster area, one theory is that with the disgraceful cheapness and lack of regulation that has always surrounded their trade - that with the recession people are abandoning or killing animals they no longer want to care for.

Just recently another pony had it's throat cut, experts say it would have died an agonising death. A few weeks ago there was a picture of a burnt donkey (they didn't know if it had been alive at the time of burning or not) and just after Christmas there was an attempted burning of a dying pony by some sick juveniles.

Warning to public after sadistic slaughter of pony - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

Isn't it time to shut down cheap horse trading fairs and properly regulate the sale and care of these poor creatures? There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates) and the level of care i have witnessed is far from adequate.
There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates)

Which Estates are these?

A horse had its throat cut in a field up Ongar way last week by some sick bastard/s BTW.:evil:
 

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There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates)

Which Estates are these?

A horse had its throat cut in a field up Ongar way last week by some sick bastard/s BTW.:evil:
This one may not have been killed in an estate (true) but i never claimed it was, i claimed that horse/pony use is very high in the estates (which you have to admit is not the best place for them and likely to lead to them becoming expendable) and that's all.

In the case of the slit throat - pleasure probably.
Or it is possible that they thought they were doing it a favor and euthanising it in their own way...

There is more on this epidemic of equine slayings here...

DSPCA in the News March 2010

The Dublin SPCA witnessed one of the most distressing scenes in its 170 years at the Dunsink Landfill, Finglas. A severely emaciated pony had been attacked by a pack of dogs who had then fed on the crippled and disabled animal for a period of time. The animal was still alive when Dublin SPCA officers arrived at the scene and was immediately euthanized.

DSPCA CEO Jimmy Cahill who attended the scene said; “I have seen some things in my life but never anything as horrendous as what I’ve witnessed today. The poor animal was savaged beyond belief....

The critically injured pony was in severe pain and distress and had to be euthanised by the Dublin SPCA officers who attended the scene with Gardai. No one has claimed ownership of the animal and it seems she is just another unlicensed and unregulated pony who was being kept by inexperienced owners.
In a separate incident on Tuesday 15th February a red and white 2 year old female pony was knocked down at Cambler Bridge, Rathoath Road, Cabra, Dublin 7 at 1.15pm. The pony was seen at the location with a number of youths and was knocked down by what witnesses described as a Blue Toyota Avensis of which only part of the registration was identified as 05D. Witnesses saw the car, which was being driven by two male youths, hit the pony at the rear and then stop and drive into the pony a second time breaking the animals back leg before speeding off in the direction of Cabra.
The cost is enormous for caring for animals taken into care...

We cannot turn a blind eye to what is going on, however there are serious financial repercussions to the rescue and care of these horses. Every horse that we take in costs an average of €3,000.
Definitely a charity worth supporting. Are these animals being produced as a byproduct of the horse-breeding industry? If so it would explain government indifference (the current lot are more interested canvassing for brown envelopes at horse-racing events and FG are probably no different) to legislating to put an end to this, if there is a connection then at the very least these places should be funded by the rich who benefit from the horseracing and breeding industries here.
 

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You require a Dog License to own a miniture Yorkshire Terrier. What would you sa would do more damage to you, a Yorkie or a horse? We need to enforce licensing for horses and make it so you can't obtain one unless you have suitable stables.
 

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Over the last few months i have read of quite a few horrific killings of these animals, especially around the Leinster area, one theory is that with the disgraceful cheapness and lack of regulation that has always surrounded their trade - that with the recession people are abandoning or killing animals they no longer want to care for.

Just recently another pony had it's throat cut, experts say it would have died an agonising death. A few weeks ago there was a picture of a burnt donkey (they didn't know if it had been alive at the time of burning or not) and just after Christmas there was an attempted burning of a dying pony by some sick juveniles.

Warning to public after sadistic slaughter of pony - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

Isn't it time to shut down cheap horse trading fairs and properly regulate the sale and care of these poor creatures? There seems to be an over-abundance of them in the Dublin area (especially the estates) and the level of care i have witnessed is far from adequate.
dont we have laws and a so called police force to deal with these things
 

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Surely unwanted horses and ponies should be sent to the abattoir for slaughter, the meat can be used in the manufacture of cat and dog food failing that send it to France where it is appreciated for it's gastronomic qualities.
The ISPCA or Bord Bia should have the resources to organise the scheme.
No, let the horse breeders provide pasture for their 'failures' that end up at smithfield - heaven knows they make enough money out of these kinds of animals.

Where do the excess horses come from? That's where we need to squeeze.
 

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No creature should be killed in a cruel manner and buying an animal should be regarded as a responsibility.

At the risk of sounding stupid why go to the bother of killing them and trying to dispose of the bodies? Why not just let them loose?
Are ye mad? Modern horses cannot survive on grass alone. Horses are being abandoned on common land all over the country and the DSPCA & ISPCA are finding these poor emaciated creatures all the time.

Shut down the horse fairs, limit legal ownership of horses to over 18's and introduce compulsory registration of ownership and freeze marking for ID purposes. Add to this a 15 year mandatory sentence for abandoning a horse for any reason.
 

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No, let the horse breeders provide pasture for their 'failures' that end up at smithfield - heaven knows they make enough money out of these kinds of animals.

Where do the excess horses come from? That's where we need to squeeze.
Yeah But I got the Impression that Farm animals get the chop sooner or later?
Being an animal loving vegetarian the last thing I would do is lead any animal to slaughter but I seem to recognise that it's the done thing, you know cows pigs and sheep all end up.... even race horses get put down when they break a leg. cats and dogs suffer the same fate when the owner has had enough and a new owner can't be found.


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Horses are supposed to be registered and microchipped afaik. Another case of lack of enforcement rather than us not having laws?
 

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There is an article in the Guardian about the country's horse problem (or rather horse-owner problem or politician sitting on brain problem)...

Ireland's homeless horses face mass cull | World news | The Guardian

Animal rights advocates are calling for a cull of horses which have become abandoned by their owners over the last few years, facing into a harsh winter and with as many as 20,000 horse roaming around fending for themselves the motive is humanitarian.

It would break your heart to know that we can be such a callous and pig ignorant people, from the top (where politicians allow for this situation to occur) to the bottom level of ignorance in buying a horse you cannot care for come hail or rain (and selling them). We have the highest rate of horse ownership per capita in Europe according to the article... which is a mark of shame given the article.

It also heaps more embarrassment on our country that makes us seem callous and ignorant and at a trying time when there is no end to the embarrassments that must be suffered if you are Irish. There are striking parallels with the boom and bust nature of the last few years...

Orla Aungier, the DSPCA operations manager, says that they have had to put down half of those horses taken into their shelter so far this year. Aungier points out that at the height of the boom a non-thoroughbred horse bought as a pet could cost up to €4,000; today, that price can be as low as €50. Three-quarter thoroughbred horses are also at risk and the DSPCA this year even had to deal with two cases of abandoned fully thoroughbred horses their owners no longer can afford.

"It's all down to the recession because the first thing to go in a family budget are luxury items and, sadly, horses were luxury pets when the good times were rolling. Every animal welfare charity in the country will tell that Ireland is unique in terms of the volume of abandoned horses all over the state.
There needs to be legislation to control the number of horses in this country and to remove them (especially in congested urban areas) from the list of acceptable pets to own.

If anyone is thinking of buying any pet, it goes without saying that they should first ensure they can look after it properly for the rest of it's natural life.
 

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The police horse at the center of the Camerondonkeygate, has has been put into the witness protection program, after Cameron said he rode the wrong horse. He does not recall who he rode.
 


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