So Call Our New Prostitution Law?

Leandrai

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The GMB union in Scotland has set up a sex workers union. Irish unions should follow suit. The issue needs to be decriminalised so that sex workers can improve working conditions and report abusive clients. The fear of being prosecuted is deterring sex workers from reporting assaults by clients, as evidenced by the rising incidence of assaults on sex workers since the new law came in.

Scotland gets first sex workers' union
Something huge people never think of is that it is effectively impossible for sex workers to have elected or mandated representation as long as they are outside the law, currently they get represented by whoever can grab the reins and can afford to stay there...this is what Ruhama claimed to do for more than 20 years - represent sex workers, while lobbying for the opposite of everything sex workers actually wanted and needed. SWAI and Uglymugs form a tight, exclusionist clique, at present they are saying most of the right things, most of the time but that isn't enough. ALL sex workers need to know and feel that they have a say in the way they are represented.

Without decriminalization and a proper representative Union you have a huge block of genuinely voiceless sex workers. Which leaves itself wide open to one side insisting that all voiceless sex workers dream about having their income destroyed and their lives made impossible and the other side pleading for sex workers to have the rights and freedom to advertise on a specific web site.

I think that if sex workers had a real voice and genuine representation it would shake a lot of things up. I see it is starting to happen, sex workers have finally stopped internalising stigma and recognising they have the same right to fighting back against abolitionism that the UK miners had to fight against poor wages and condition...and for exactly the same reasons, and that is happening globally, and starting to make the abolitionists look like the self serving weirdos they really are.
 


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The Zionist colonial project is a huge consumer when it comes to the "adult entertainment industry", it was running completely out of control so the State had to step in in 2018. Let me let you into a little secret Yemeni Jews before Zionist conned most of them into leaving their homeland with wild promises only to carry out sadistic medical experiments on thousands of their children, steal thousands of other of their children and do everything to destroy their culture and Religion in the name of Western "progress" believed that prostitution and homosexuality were things that existed in Biblical times. Now you will find that it is after dirt poor Eastern European immigrants the main group of women and girls being exploited in the Zionist "adult entertainment industry" are Mizhari Jewish women and girls, particularly those from the Yemen. Uzi Meshulam Chai!
 

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An article on the shameful damaging law in Hotpress -


Sex workers' rights advocate and escort, Kate McGrew points out -

"We are the currently-working sex workers in this country. We are the experts in our lives and we are telling you that these laws are damaging. We are calling on the government to decriminalise sex work fully in the 2020 review and make sex workers safe.”
 

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I find it so weird that the state is OK with uniformed armies marching thru dublin, without even having to mention it to the gardi or the council, but consenting adults can't have sex in private in the way they agree to?
 

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I find it so weird that the state is OK with uniformed armies marching thru dublin, without even having to mention it to the gardi or the council, but consenting adults can't have sex in private in the way they agree to?
Indeed!
 

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Operation Quest recently launched has led to 36 punter arrests in Dublin and Leinster. Obviously a PR spectacular for the most part to deflect the heat from Torlers towards our wonderful law enforcement folkies.
Serious court challenges to the insane law are absolutely inevitable, surely now!
Sorry, I can't post a link as I'm on my phone.
 

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That the Garda Síochána is conducting operations targeting consensual paid sex between adults would be unfortunate in any circumstances (“Garda operation aimed to raise awareness on sex purchasing laws”, News, April 30th). However, that such operations are being led by the Garda National Protective Services Bureau is deeply pernicious.

The bureau is supposed to be leading a nationwide improved Garda response to the serious crimes of sexual violence and child sexual abuse. Yet, at the same time, it is being positioned as the division of the Garda responsible for the policing of paid adult consensual sex. Critically, this means people in sex work cannot trust the bureau. ......



And the Bureau does all kinds of everything - The Garda National Protective Services Bureau

Sexual Crime Investigation; Online Child Exploitation Investigation; Child Protection, Domestic Abuse Intervention and Investigation; Human Trafficking Investigation; Organised Prostitution Investigation; ViCLAS; Specialist Interview; Sex Offender Management; Missing Persons; Missing Persons in Care; and, Support for Victims of Crime.
 

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The Royal College of Nursing in The UK have called for sex work to be decriminlaized -


Before the introduction of the insane Swedish Law here, many medckos were gagging for it to be introduced, but then again our medickos are quite a closetted bunch!:mad:
 

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People opposed to this law should vote against Frances Fitzgerald in the Euro elections in Dublin.
 

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She might get the consolation prize of replacing Phil as our EU Commissioner, in that case.
 

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Standing up to Ruhama at last:
 

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Prostitution is a good thing, that’s why it is always there. A good friend of mine goes every Tuesday. He has 3 regulars but will try a new one every now and then. He is in his mid 40s and would find it close to impossible to have sex with women like these - he says they are very beautiful and about 18-23 years old, obviously I tease him about 50 year old granny prostitutes. Anyway, it gives him something to look forward to on a Monday morning, he has the great recent memory on Wednesday and then on Thursday you’re heading into the weekend. Prostitutes improve the mental health of many men.
 

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He is in his mid 40s and would find it close to impossible to have sex with women like these - he says they are very beautiful and about 18-23 years old,
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This is the thing, you are used to a sex life, then - nothing. Then you find out that there are these ladies who specialise in pleasure giving. It's not about "love", it's only an entertainment for a short time.

It's a world away from the druggies on the street. Everything is clean and johnnies are a must.

You don't need to obsess about a co-worker, someone else's wife or a young wan who wouldn't be interested anyway. Which is why wives in countries like france usually turn a blind eye.
 

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That the Garda Síochána is conducting operations targeting consensual paid sex between adults would be unfortunate in any circumstances (“Garda operation aimed to raise awareness on sex purchasing laws”, News, April 30th). However, that such operations are being led by the Garda National Protective Services Bureau is deeply pernicious.

The bureau is supposed to be leading a nationwide improved Garda response to the serious crimes of sexual violence and child sexual abuse. Yet, at the same time, it is being positioned as the division of the Garda responsible for the policing of paid adult consensual sex. Critically, this means people in sex work cannot trust the bureau. ......



And the Bureau does all kinds of everything - The Garda National Protective Services Bureau

Sexual Crime Investigation; Online Child Exploitation Investigation; Child Protection, Domestic Abuse Intervention and Investigation; Human Trafficking Investigation; Organised Prostitution Investigation; ViCLAS; Specialist Interview; Sex Offender Management; Missing Persons; Missing Persons in Care; and, Support for Victims of Crime.
To me it sounds like an attempt to pile a load of awkward stuff in the corner give it a fancy name then throw in a few heads and hope for the best. No joined up thinking and the gangland killers are back on the beat where the cops should be. Well done again AGS.
 

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Decriminalisation at it's most flexible - two women, one of them pregnant, working together are jailed for brothel keeping...
For three months longer than the law allows...see section 11 (i):
www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1993/act/20/section/11/enacted/en/html#sec11

Naturally Ruhama have been flooding the airwaves and social media with howls of protest at this inhumane antithesis of the Nordic Model they were so insistent about...
Haven't they?

It's just me who can't find it...probably keep putting the same typo into Google again...I do that...because these poor foreign nationals are VICTIMS who need help, support, rehabilitation and indoctrination...not punishment...according to Ruhama...
 
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9 months is incredibly draconian to sentence a prostitute to. It harks back to 'Holy Catholic Ireland' and the Magdalene Launderies.

For years the Feminists were calling for this new law, saying it would criminalise the customers but not the "women". But in fact, only 1 client has been convicted and around 47 sex workers, because if they work indoors in groups they are defined as brothel keepers.

Time for the Feminists to realise they were used by the Catholic Church in the form of the nun-controlled organisations like Ruhama to advance social conservatism disguised as womens-liberation.
 

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I cannot wrap my head round this - it's a miscarriage of justice on a giant scale, and Ruhama have not bothered to say a single word...not even a bit of predictable piffle we can attack to feel better.

The whole abolitionist game is a load of high rent, calculated, misguidance with a side order of total disregard for fundamental human rights.

Don't get me started on that Judge...seriously...
 


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