So Renua Is Finished Then....

ruman

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Who does the constituency you speak of vote for?

And who are they? Are they healthcare professionals, educators and FDI employees? Or what?
Mostly self employed, small business owners. Wealth creators who keep the public sector in the style to which they have become accustomed while receiving terrible public services in return.

FF probably , or used to at least. Not sure who they vote for now, probably FG in 2011 but doubt they'll vote for them again.
 


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Mostly self employed, small business owners.
Any thoughts on why this group, that you feel is resourceful with cohesive interests, isn't driving a new political movement?

I'd suspect they are largely catered for by FG.

(NB At the risk of derailing the thread, the SME sector's contribution to national finances is less than you imagine. The FDI sector is what keeps the country going.

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Okay, thanks fair enough didnt know that but **** her, and **** renua, they are weak as water, they didn't get out there, they did as much door to door work as the national party ,a bucket of piss. How are nats supposed to get anywhere if they keep cutting each other down and poaching from each other instead of uniting? What are they beyond a twitter page?? No nat party will agree on the small issues, but the bigger stuff is what's important the big picture and all that. We need solutions, practical solutions as to why they are not getting the votes, - too many nat parties to begin w. Even look at that batty one gemma o Doherty, she keeps going on about anti-vax, which to some extent she has a point, but the ian bailey thing??And the chemtrails, not everyone will jump on board with that, you need to keep it clean and simple. Unite people! Unite the vote! We need one focused nat party , not a million of the Nayion!
The majority of people are neither left or right but somewhere in the middle. Groups like Renua and Aontu were one issue parties and anti-abortion was it's name. Sure they added other issues later but their base support came from pro-lifers and they are not interested in side issues.
 

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The Lucinda Creighton party barely even started. It is was replete with poorly explained policies like a flat tax which would be a sort of tax rise for everyone except the wealthy, and was somewhat strongly against abortion, but not too strongly, mind. A pointless vanity vehicle if ever their was one.
 

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Aontu have Toibin, Renua had Leahy - a world of difference. Renua was toast when Creighton flounced.
That's very true. What were SF about when they thought they could afford to lose somebody of Toibin's talent? Then the optics of having him 'disappeared' from the Dail. I don't get his stance on abortion but in spite of that he could still get votes from people who disagree with him on that issue. Leahy isn't in his league at all.
 

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What about people who voted for Leahy because he wasn't FF? There are many people in Wicklow who'll never forgive Stephen Donnelly for doing what he did.
 

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The Lucinda Creighton party barely even started. It is was replete with poorly explained policies like a flat tax which would be a sort of tax rise for everyone except the wealthy, and was somewhat strongly against abortion, but not too strongly, mind. A pointless vanity vehicle if ever their was one.
It was badly launched and incoherent but there is a market for a well focused right wing party.
 

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It was badly launched and incoherent but there is a market for a well focused right wing party.
I see John Drennan walking the dog from time to time and I'm ungentlemanly enough to grant myself a small smile.

I wonder if he ever ponders on the difference between the luxury being a commentator and the reality of trying to do the job.
 

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It was badly launched and incoherent but there is a market for a well focused right wing party.
There is indeed, as the country found out to its cost under successive governments that included the DTs, I mean the PDs.
However, more than anything else it was a vehicle for a few disgruntled politicians that didn't really bring anything positive to the cabinet, the Dáil or the country.
Renua was never more than a pale shadow of the PDs, and FG is more than far enough to the right for our homegrown rightwingers.
 

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You can't kill Renuans. All you can do is continue to hang up the garlic around the doors and warn against teenage daughters in the village going out to dance in the moonlight or anything chancy like that.

I heard a stake through the heart works but you have to enter their crypts to do that.

Stay safe, everyone.
 

Clanrickard

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You can't kill Renuans. All you can do is continue to hang up the garlic around the doors and warn against teenage daughters in the village going out to dance in the moonlight or anything chancy like that.

I heard a stake through the heart works but you have to enter their crypts to do that.

Stay safe, everyone.
I think we already have a winner for moronic postcode the day.
 

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I think we already have a winner for moronic postcode the day.
Thank you, Clan. I'd just like to take a moment in admiring this fabulous award to say how grateful I am to my parents who helped me find a suitable agent, and thank my agent for immediately finding me more suitable parents ...
 

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“Not only can they not hold a successful election but literally can’t even hold a raffle.”

Sums it up really.
For "One disgruntled party stalwart who parted with 50 quid" read, 'the only gobshite thick enough to buy a ticket'. :)
 

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