Solidarity support self determination for Catalonia but not Ireland

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Paul Murphy has described the Spanish govt's attempts to prevent the Catalan referendum as "a denial of the democratic right of the people in Catalonia. " While this is the same party that says we cannot have a border poll in the six counties because "the legacy of the Troubles remains and sectarian divisions". Clearly the Trots are on the side of unionism and them having a veto through the inference of violence.

What else I suppose could you expect from a British controlled Trotskyite party ?

Paul Murphy TD speaks out against Spanish State repression in Catalonia
 


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So, partition for Spain but not for Ireland , eh ?
 

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The left have a funny attitude to the 6 counties. They are like the comfortable right who wish it could be cut off and sail away.
 

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The left have a funny attitude to the 6 counties. They are like the comfortable right who wish it could be cut off and sail away.
The Trots are so extremely to the left their actually on the right !!
 

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Who are the leaders of the Socialist Party?
There is no information on their website.
Is there a politburo?
 

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Paul Murphy has described the Spanish govt's attempts to prevent the Catalan referendum as "a denial of the democratic right of the people in Catalonia. " While this is the same party that says we cannot have a border poll in the six counties because "the legacy of the Troubles remains and sectarian divisions". Clearly the Trots are on the side of unionism and them having a veto through the inference of violence.

What else I suppose could you expect from a British controlled Trotskyite party ?

Paul Murphy TD speaks out against Spanish State repression in Catalonia
Yep, spot on.
 

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Paul Murphy has described the Spanish govt's attempts to prevent the Catalan referendum as "a denial of the democratic right of the people in Catalonia. " While this is the same party that says we cannot have a border poll in the six counties because "the legacy of the Troubles remains and sectarian divisions". Clearly the Trots are on the side of unionism and them having a veto through the inference of violence.

What else I suppose could you expect from a British controlled Trotskyite party ?

Paul Murphy TD speaks out against Spanish State repression in Catalonia
If the border poll was going to be a poll to let Northern Ireland off as an independent country, most people would queue up to let that happen.

Apples and oranges.
 

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Paul Murphy has described the Spanish govt's attempts to prevent the Catalan referendum as "a denial of the democratic right of the people in Catalonia. " While this is the same party that says we cannot have a border poll in the six counties because "the legacy of the Troubles remains and sectarian divisions". Clearly the Trots are on the side of unionism and them having a veto through the inference of violence.

What else I suppose could you expect from a British controlled Trotskyite party ?

Paul Murphy TD speaks out against Spanish State repression in Catalonia
Where have Solidarity taken a position on whether there should be a united Ireland?
 

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PON - surely you have better things to be doing with your time than propagating your usual urban myths about Solidarity and the Socialist Party - then again - you rarely do anything else these days (and you keep telling me that Solidarity are irrelevant) :roll:
 

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Paul Murphy has described the Spanish govt's attempts to prevent the Catalan referendum as "a denial of the democratic right of the people in Catalonia. " While this is the same party that says we cannot have a border poll in the six counties because "the legacy of the Troubles remains and sectarian divisions". Clearly the Trots are on the side of unionism and them having a veto through the inference of violence.

What else I suppose could you expect from a British controlled Trotskyite party ?

Paul Murphy TD speaks out against Spanish State repression in Catalonia
this is the same party who suggested that the south rejoin the united kingdom if it becomes a socialist state
 

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If the border poll was going to be a poll to let Northern Ireland off as an independent country, most people would queue up to let that happen.

Apples and oranges.



If that was the case why aren't the unionists calling out for such !!
 

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PON - surely you have better things to be doing with your time than propagating your usual urban myths about Solidarity and the Socialist Party - then again - you rarely do anything else these days (and you keep telling me that Solidarity are irrelevant) :roll:
The quotes and link are form your website, your caught in total hypocrisy again MW.
 

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The quotes and link are form your website, your caught in total hypocrisy again MW.
You give a couple of selective quotes and draw all the wrong conclusions - on purpose - just to try and stir the pot as usual.
 

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If the border poll was going to be a poll to let Northern Ireland off as an independent country, most people would queue up to let that happen.
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Independent Northern Ireland cannot be on the menu. According to the GFA, its membership of United Kingdom or united ireland (which could decide to have a federal element).

Edit: one could argue that similarily the Catalans agreed in 1978 not to hold regional independence votes and should be bound by it.
 

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PON - surely you have better things to be doing with your time than propagating your usual urban myths about Solidarity and the Socialist Party - then again - you rarely do anything else these days (and you keep telling me that Solidarity are irrelevant) :roll:
Help me out please - who is the leader of the Socialist Party?
 

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I think I remember MW telling me a couple of years ago that the SP are a self-confessed unpatriotic party/non-patriotic party. Do you care to refresh our minds MW?
 

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I think I remember MW telling me a couple of years ago that the SP are a self-confessed unpatriotic party/non-patriotic party. Do you care to refresh our minds MW?
As usual you see what you want to see - yourself and our resident Shinnerbot PON are well suited.

And I said the Socialist Party is anti-nationalist (and anti-unionist) - it is a socialist party.
 

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As usual you see what you want to see - yourself and our resident Shinnerbot PON are well suited.

And I said the Socialist Party is anti-nationalist (and anti-unionist) - it is a socialist party.
Are you denying that you are not a patriotic party? I'm asking because I distinctly remember you say that you are not a patriotic party on this site a few years ago and I found the idea remarkable even for what I thought of your leaders or most of them.
 


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