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Some protesters are more equal than others


Colin M

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Which could well be found if you read between the lines of Jack O'Connor's quotes to the media, following the anti-austerity march in Dublin.

O’Connor said that a number of protesters carrying Sinn Féin and United Left Alliance banners and posters tried to “besmirch” the demonstration, describing it as a “deeply sinister trend which has developed over the recent past and bears all the hall marks of fascism”.
This is the word that makes O'Connor looks foolish, and potentially hypocritical. I have to wonder if he thinks that if you're a member of an establishment left group like SIPTU and the Labour party, that ultimately gives you a bigger right to take to the streets?

People have be going to these marches with SF and Socialist banners for years. Why does he have a problem about it now?

http://www.thejournal.ie/anti-austerity-dublin-march-688549-Nov2012/#slide-slideshow7
 
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Which could well be found if you read between the lines of Jack O'Connor's quotes to the media, following the anti-austerity march in Dublin.



This is the word that makes O'Connor looks foolish, and potentially hypocritical. I have to wonder if he thinks that if you're a member of an establishment left group like SIPTU and the Labour party, that ultimately gives you a bigger right to take to the streets?

People have be going to these marches with SF and Socialist banners for years. Why does he have a problem about it now?
Because they don't fund the Ivory Tower people like O'Connor are holed up in?

Are there any pics of the banners/posters he's talking about?
 

Red_93

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Do you have link or the full quote to give a bit of context? These things are all naturally very relevant
 

edifice.

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Social Partnership fatally compromised the unions.
 

Red_93

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I am taking it from The Journal article, whch is here:


SIPTU condemns ‘fascist behaviour’ at today’s austerity protest
SIPTU PRESIDENT JACK O’Connor has said that attempts were made to prevent the head of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions Eugene McGlone from speaking at today’s anti-austerity march.
Ah. Now there's the thing. Shoulda been included in your OP. No fan of Jack O'Connor but you should have given some background Colin and the fact that you didn't makes you look like you have an agenda.
 

Colin M

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Ah. Now there's the thing. Shoulda been included in your OP. No fan of Jack O'Connor but you should have given some background Colin and the fact that you didn't makes you look like you have an agenda.
Ah, but we don't know for certain if the ICTU guy was going to be stopped, or not. We know what O'Connor thinks of a section of the protesters there today, though.
 
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Ah. Now there's the thing. Shoulda been included in your OP. No fan of Jack O'Connor but you should have given some background Colin and the fact that you didn't makes you look like you have an agenda.
Not really. If O'Connor, as a TU leader, respects the right of people to protest that also should extend to those protesting against people in receipt of huge salaries such as him. Nor should he label them fascist because it isn't.
 

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Not really. If O'Connor, as a TU leader, respects the right of people to protest that also should extend to those protesting against people in receipt of huge salaries such as him. Nor should he label them fascist because it isn't.
I'm not saying it is fascist. But I can see why he might have been angered by being silenced.
 

nonpartyboy

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Social Partnership fatally compromised the unions.
The union leadership, our people are going bananas in work.....it's the leadership, that are doing everything they can to prevent us taking any kind of action, legal or otherwise. But i can tell you this, the next cut aimed directly at us and there is going to be uproar and no way will the union leaderships contain it.

The funny thing is the right wingers here think the union leaders are the devil incarnate, little do they realise the sterling job they are doing in allowing us workers to get screwed......
 
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MrFunkyBoogaloo

I'm not saying it is fascist. But I can see why he might have been angered by being silenced.
I can see why too and I'm not saying that you are, I was just disagreeing with your assertion that the OP looks like he may have an agenda.
 

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Now some interesting questions re Mr McGlone:
(1) Is McGlone a member of Sinn Fein or has he ever been a member of Sinn Fein?
(2) Has he ever addressed Sinn Fein conferences?
(3) How come he has not called for a general strike north of the border? After all there have been savage health and education cuts north of the border.
(4) Has this man ever run a business?
(5) A general strike would polish off more businesses. Will McGlone support financially the workers made redundant?
 
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cillian32

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I was there today ...i left when the union boys started to speak.....so too did of the shinners i know.....couldnt be arsed hearing the BOLLOCKS FROM EM......MISSING A TESTTE OR TWO them lads...lol
 
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It was a very pertinent fact.
True but it doesn't alter the fact that, eventually, McGlone spoke nor that O'Connor called the act of booing a "hallmark of fascism". It makes his claim that little bit worse I think...

I'd hate to see him at a Panto after that.
 

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Had O'Connor relied on a Union Members only march he would have been addressing the passing shoppers. The large "Shame on Labour" banner got to him as was evident by his Hoganite manner.
 

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I remember 2 reports by Russia Today and the Young Turks with people on the OWS protests and what stood out was the amount of right wing people. Of course, there was a balance favouring the left but those on the right were well represented.

IMHO, both factions have their reasons to be pissed off with an element of cross section. Personally, I don't sed anything odd in that. As a lefty, I often find common ground with those on the right such as social responsibility and the deliberate demonising by established politics and media towards those of us who are none of the above.
 

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I was there today ...i left when the union boys started to speak.....so too did of the shinners i know.....couldnt be arsed hearing the BOLLOCKS FROM EM......MISSING A TESTTE OR TWO them lads...lol
One of my many pointless ideas is that we encourage everyone we know to join unions and take them on. They're useless fukkers but it only takes mass participation and a touch of democracy to sink the grubby little gits who lead the unions now.

You should have asked the shinners why they didn't try to have the unemployed and disabled vulnerable to Tory cuts in the north.
 
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