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Some "recovery" : Xtravision goes the way of HMV




Dublin 4

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Terrible day- I enjoyed Xtravision.

Staff were always great craic & made the whole Transaction all the more enjoyable.

These green shoots really are a serious problem, sprouting up & strangling everything all over the country....
 

corporal punishment

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I wonder if the upward only rent review farce was an issue. certainly can't have helped.
 

Howya

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Sad but inevitable with the growth of internet, satellite etc. Hard to see how Xtravision could have adapted.
 

Sync

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So the position of both Keith and d4 is that this is somehow the recessions fault correct? Not the inevitable end for a poorly ran business in a dead industry? Because that's the only conclusion that can be drawn from the rubbish title and green shoots comments.
 

ManInTheArena

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Pity to see all those jobs go, but this business model is dead, and has been for a decade.
 

Ulster-Lad

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More business leaving then coming it seams. :(
 

livingstone

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Obviously sad for the staff but you really can't take anything about the economy from this.

Even in the strongest economy, Xtra Vision would fail. Why would anyone rent DVDs for €2 or €3 a night when they can subscribe to the likes of netflix for less than a a tenner a month and not even have to leave the house?

And that's assuming folk operate legally - illegal downloading makes film-watching free. And even for those determined to operate legally AND watch an actual physical DVD (due to net connection or whatever), the retail cost of DVDs is so low (whether online or in the high street) that DVD rental was always going to fall by the wayside.

This is sad for those losing jobs, but is not an indication one way or another of the health of the economy.
 

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So the position of both Keith and d4 is that this is somehow the recessions fault correct? Not the inevitable end for a poorly ran business in a dead industry?
I'll articulate my own position thank you.

This wonderful "Recovery" didn't save Xtravision etc.

Rising tide lifting all Boats yada, yada...
 
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it is simply the wrong business to be in now , on line and on demand have made it yesterday's business and the rest of their offering like trying to sell mobile phones and games etc. was too confusing for everyone.
 

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In fairness now, video/game rental was hardly going to survive in the modern internet age.

Recession just sped up the process really. Feel sorry for the many people who have lost their jobs.

This is a dying industry.
 

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HMV - over priced and failed to get into the online market in good time
Xtravision - over priced and just plain needless. It costed about €6 to rent a movie from them when you could watch it on Sky box office for €2.50.
 

Dublin 4

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Obviously sad for the staff but you really can't take anything about the economy from this.

Even in the strongest economy, Xtra Vision would fail. Why would anyone rent DVDs for €2 or €3 a night when they can subscribe to the likes of netflix for less than a a tenner a month and not even have to leave the house?

And that's assuming folk operate legally - illegal downloading makes film-watching free. And even for those determined to operate legally AND watch an actual physical DVD (due to net connection or whatever), the retail cost of DVDs is so low (whether online or in the high street) that DVD rental was always going to fall by the wayside.

This is sad for those losing jobs, but is not an indication one way or another of the health of the economy.
1,000 new redundancies is pretty fkin bad for our Economy pal...
 
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So the position of both Keith and d4 is that this is somehow the recessions fault correct? Not the inevitable end for a poorly ran business in a dead industry? Because that's the only conclusion that can be drawn from the rubbish title and green shoots comments.
Could the shops be re-opened as anger management clinics?
 

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Sad but inevitable with the growth of internet, satellite etc. Hard to see how Xtravision could have adapted.

Hardly inevitable. I was in Edinburgh at the weekend and had a choice of HMVs to shop in. It's just this Godforsaken country that seems to be unfriendly to retail. As already mentioned, upwards only rents and the government's reneging on its promise to do something about them is a considerable factor.
 

ShoutingIsLeadership

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Keith, put your c*ck away for a few minutes and stop exploiting the suffering of these workers, for your own means.
 

Dublin 4

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HMV - over priced and failed to get into the online market in good time
Xtravision - over priced and just plain needless. It costed about €6 to rent a movie from them when you could watch it on Sky box office for €2.50.
That's all part of the problem dudez.

Technology/Innovation sometimes hurts the Economy...
 

Sync

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I'll articulate my own position thank you.

This wonderful "Recovery" didn't save Xtravision etc.

Rising tide lifting all Boats yada, yada...
Right. Except only a moron would think a dead industry would be saved by a recovering economy. Did you expect an improved economy to save xtravision? For realsies?
 

livingstone

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Hardly inevitable. I was in Edinburgh at the weekend and had a choice of HMVs to shop in. It's just this Godforsaken country that seems to be unfriendly to retail. As already mentioned, upwards only rents and the government's reneging on its promise to do something about them is a considerable factor.
HMV operates a different model to Xtra Vision. It's not in the rental market. It's in the retail market. And even then it's struggling. Pretending that HMV in the UK is in top shape when your own thread title suggests that Xtra vision 'goes the way of' HMV is just wrong.
 

Sync

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Hardly inevitable. I was in Edinburgh at the weekend and had a choice of HMVs to shop in. It's just this Godforsaken country that seems to be unfriendly to retail. As already mentioned, upwards only rents and the government's reneging on its promise to do something about them is a considerable factor.
So you think the hmvs in the uk are ok? Is that your position?
 

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