Southern Poverty Law Society settles for $3.375m with Maajid Nawaz

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After years of smearing good people with false charges of bigotry, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has finally been held to account. A former Islamic radical named Maajid Nawaz sued the center for including him in its bogus “Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists,” and this week the SPLC agreed to pay him a $3.375 million settlement and issued a public apology.


The SPLC is a once-storied organization that did important work filing civil rights lawsuits against the Ku Klux Klan in the 1970s. But it has become a caricature of itself, labeling virtually anyone who does not fall in line with its left-wing ideology an “extremist” or “hate group.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0c993460fc37

Maajid Nawaz is an interesting and intelligent character.
Having begun as an Islamic fundamentalist, he spent 5 years in jail in Egypt.
His eventually turned 180 degrees and found himself being vilified by the left for preaching against muslim extremism.


Here he is talking about it with Bill Maher.

[video=youtube;MlAw7qYLk5w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=263&v=MlAw7qYLk5w[/video]

I wonder if Ayaan Hirsi Ali will sue them next ?
 


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The splc do great work and have shown up thw nasty hate filled bile of the many groups it lists, they made a bad mistake in this case and paid for it but it dosnt negate the fact that they do important work (No matter how how much the haters wish it does)
 

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Ayaan Hirsi Ali

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0c993460fc37

Maajid Nawaz is an interesting and intelligent character.
Having begun as an Islamic fundamentalist, he spent 5 years in jail in Egypt.
His eventually turned 180 degrees and found himself being vilified by the left for preaching against muslim extremism.


Here he is talking about it with Bill Maher.

[video=youtube;MlAw7qYLk5w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=263&v=MlAw7qYLk5w[/video]

I wonder if Ayaan Hirsi Ali will sue them next ?
Indeed
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/islamic-reformer-to-meet-with-splc-president-demand-explanation-for-anti-muslim-extremist-label/
The list of “anti-Muslim extremists,” which had been active on the SPLC’s website since it was published in December 2016, did include genuine promoters of hate; but it also included a number of liberal reformers such as Nawaz, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali-born scholar who has spoken out against cultural practices such as female genital mutilation, which she herself was subjected to. The list branded her discussion of such topics “toxic.”
 

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The splc do great work and have shown up thw nasty hate filled bile of the many groups it lists, they made a bad mistake in this case and paid for it but it dosnt negate the fact that they do important work (No matter how how much the haters wish it does)

They also listed Ayaan Hirsi Ali as an anti-muslim extremist.
That's not a 'bad mistake'.
That's an agenda.
And it has been exposed.
 

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The splc do great work and have shown up thw nasty hate filled bile of the many groups it lists, they made a bad mistake in this case and paid for it but it dosnt negate the fact that they do important work (No matter how how much the haters wish it does)
Is it really just a "bad mistake"?

The SPLC’s “Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists” — intended to serve as resource for journalists to identify purveyors of hateful propaganda — suggested that Nawaz’s criticisms of Islamic fundamentalism, which are informed by his personal experience as a former Islamic radical, constituted a “savaging” of the religion. After demanding a retraction for the better part of two years, Nawaz threatened to sue over the characterization in April. The SPLC admitted fault earlier this month and agreed to pay him, and his anti-extremist think tank the Quilliam Foundation, $3.375 million “to fund their work to fight anti-Muslim bigotry and extremism.” [My emphasis]

So they did nothing for the best part of 2 years until he threatened to sue. What sort of "mistake" is that?
 

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How does the SPLC Compare to the Irish Independent re Libel Apologies?

To give the Southern Poverty Law Center its due, its apology after two years compares well with the record of the Irish Independent in apologising to April 2007 to Niamh Nic Mhathuna for libelous articles by Justine McCarthy nearly a decade previously.
Justine McCarthy, Niamh Nic Mhathuna, Youth Defence, Bishop Brendan Comiskey
JUSTINE McCARTHY LOSES LIBEL CASE

“In articles published in November 1997 we referred to Ms Niamh Nic Mhathuna, then spokesperson for the pro-life organisation, Youth Defence. It is suggested that the articles meant that she had been trained in illegal activities and actions of a violent nature.

We are happy to acknowledge that this was untrue, that no such meaning was intended and that Ms Nic Mhathuna is a person of the highest integrity.”


In one article, on 29 November 1997, Justine McCarthy,who now works for the Sunday Times, wrote:

“Its [Youth Defence’s] best-known spokeswoman, Niamh Nic Mhathuna, has travelled to the U.S. in the past where she has met members of Operation Rescue, the militant organisation with a worldwide notoriety for bombing abortion clinics. It is widely accepted in Washington that Operation Rescue trains like-minded anti-abortion activists in elements of its campaigning tactics.”

It took nearly 10 years and 50 separate court appearances to get the Indo to apologise for THAT libel!
 

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The splc do great work and have shown up thw nasty hate filled bile of the many groups it lists, they made a bad mistake in this case and paid for it but it dosnt negate the fact that they do important work (No matter how how much the haters wish it does)
It wasn't a mistake.

They believed he was far right because he campaigned against fascists who happen to be Muslim and isn't that what the EDL do.

The kindest interpretation that could be given was the splc is manned by idiots. The less benign view is they genuinely believed it.
 

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They hate men too

https://www.brit.co/these-male-supremacist-organizations-were-named-hate-groups-by-splc/

"The two groups added are A Voice for Men , a non-profit organization based in Houston, whose self-described mission is: “T]o provide education and encouragement to men and boys; to lift them above the din of misandry, to reject the unhealthy demands of gynocentrism in all its forms, and to promote their mental, physical and financial well-being without compromise or apology;” and Return of Kings , a Houston-based website that runs articles such as, Why Human Resources Hates You (But Not Her) and 27 Attractive Girls Who Became Ugly Freaks Because of Feminism. Additionally, the founder of Return of Kings, Roosh V, has advocated for rape to be legalized on private property, according to the SPLC report."

That is about the SPLC level - I hope that they are sued into oblivion
 

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Google and Facebook use the SPLC hate-group for guidance on what material to ban.

Figures.
 

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Good. The Southern Poverty Law Centre are basically a liberal bullying group.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0c993460fc37

Maajid Nawaz is an interesting and intelligent character.
Having begun as an Islamic fundamentalist, he spent 5 years in jail in Egypt.
His eventually turned 180 degrees and found himself being vilified by the left for preaching against muslim extremism.


Here he is talking about it with Bill Maher.

[video=youtube;MlAw7qYLk5w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=263&v=MlAw7qYLk5w[/video]

I wonder if Ayaan Hirsi Ali will sue them next ?
Good enough for them. I reckon this won't he the last , watched a news segment on them one night and it is crazy some of the people that they have on their hate list. Anyone who steps out of line at all of the mainstream PC group think goes on the list.

The chap who won this case is a regular panelist on Sky News weekly debate program 'The Pledge'.
 

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The splc do great work and have shown up thw nasty hate filled bile of the many groups it lists, they made a bad mistake in this case and paid for it but it dosnt negate the fact that they do important work (No matter how how much the haters wish it does)
checked their website and it only displays utter hatred of white men ?? it is very selective in its racial hatred,,
it is no better than the groups it opposes , a nasty piece of filth,,
 

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The splc do great work and have shown up thw nasty hate filled bile of the many groups it lists, they made a bad mistake in this case and paid for it but it dosnt negate the fact that they do important work (No matter how how much the haters wish it does)
The SPLC did terrific work in their heyday but more recently seem to have lost their focus and their edge.
 

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Another SPLC "Hate Group" - the Family Research Council

The SPLC did terrific work in their heyday but more recently seem to have lost their focus and their edge.
Indeed and that's putting it very mildly. This is from the Wiki article about the "Family Research Council" also on the SPLC's list of "hate groups".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

2012 domestic terrorist attack
On August 15, 2012, Floyd Lee Corkins II, wielding a 9mm pistol along with two magazines and 50 rounds of ammunition, entered the lobby of Family Research Council's Washington, D.C. headquarters. Corkins shot an employee, 46-year-old Leonardo Johnson, in the left arm. While injured, Johnson assisted others who wrestled the gunman to the ground until police arrived and placed the gunman under arrest. Johnson was taken to a hospital to treat his wound.

The gunman was interviewed by the FBI. Law enforcement officials said that the suspect, 28-year-old Floyd Corkins II, a resident of nearby Herndon, Virginia, had served as a volunteer at a LGBT community center. The FBI and the Metropolitan Police Department investigated jointly "to determine motive/intent and whether a hate crime/terrorism nexus exists." During his FBI interview, Corkins was asked how he chose his target. His response was "Southern Poverty Law lists anti-gay groups. I found them online".[My emphasis] Corkins appeared in court the following day and was charged with assault with intent to kill while armed and interstate transportation of a firearm and ammunition. An affidavit filed in the case stated that Corkins had told the guard "words to the effect of 'I don't like your politics.'


Mind you, I was a bit surprised to see the following in the same Wiki article regarding the response of a Washington Post journalist

A shooting incident in the lobby of FRC headquarters in 2012 (see above) prompted further comments on the SPLC's 'hate group' listing. Dana Milbank, columnist for the Washington Post, referred to the incident as "a madman's act" for which the SPLC should not be blamed, but called its classification of FRC as a hate group "reckless" and said that " it's absurd to put the group, as the law center does, in the same category as Aryan Nations, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Stormfront and the Westboro Baptist Church."
[My emphasis]

So we should not write "liberals" off completely!
 

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Indeed and that's putting it very mildly. This is from the Wiki article about the "Family Research Council" also on the SPLC's list of "hate groups".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council

2012 domestic terrorist attack
On August 15, 2012, Floyd Lee Corkins II, wielding a 9mm pistol along with two magazines and 50 rounds of ammunition, entered the lobby of Family Research Council's Washington, D.C. headquarters. Corkins shot an employee, 46-year-old Leonardo Johnson, in the left arm. While injured, Johnson assisted others who wrestled the gunman to the ground until police arrived and placed the gunman under arrest. Johnson was taken to a hospital to treat his wound.

The gunman was interviewed by the FBI. Law enforcement officials said that the suspect, 28-year-old Floyd Corkins II, a resident of nearby Herndon, Virginia, had served as a volunteer at a LGBT community center. The FBI and the Metropolitan Police Department investigated jointly "to determine motive/intent and whether a hate crime/terrorism nexus exists." During his FBI interview, Corkins was asked how he chose his target. His response was "Southern Poverty Law lists anti-gay groups. I found them online".[My emphasis] Corkins appeared in court the following day and was charged with assault with intent to kill while armed and interstate transportation of a firearm and ammunition. An affidavit filed in the case stated that Corkins had told the guard "words to the effect of 'I don't like your politics.'


Mind you, I was a bit surprised to see the following in the same Wiki article regarding the response of a Washington Post journalist

A shooting incident in the lobby of FRC headquarters in 2012 (see above) prompted further comments on the SPLC's 'hate group' listing. Dana Milbank, columnist for the Washington Post, referred to the incident as "a madman's act" for which the SPLC should not be blamed, but called its classification of FRC as a hate group "reckless" and said that " it's absurd to put the group, as the law center does, in the same category as Aryan Nations, Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Stormfront and the Westboro Baptist Church."
[My emphasis]

So we should not write "liberals" off completely!
1) before you posted you should researched the family research council they have a long and well documented history of nasty hate filled bigoted propaganda about gay people, their statements and positions have been further criticized as being based upon pseudoscience or junk science and are known to misrepresented data and mis-designed sociological studies in order to negatively depict LGBT people, as well as fighting any laws which would help the gay community

Their place as a hate group is well deserved

2) yes this guy used the Splc's hatewatch list to pick his target but thats up to him, they have no connection to the actual crime but the FRC play this up as propeganda because the splc rightly have them listed as a hate group
 

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[video=youtube;fPVn6phiObs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPVn6phiObs[/video]

SPLC called an African American lecturer a white supremacist for writing an article about them. She says that anyone who criticises them publicly runs the risk of being labelled a hater or being placed on Hatewatch
 

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The SPLC's Hit List

1) before you posted you should researched the family research council they have a long and well documented history of nasty hate filled bigoted propaganda about gay people, their statements and positions have been further criticized as being based upon pseudoscience or junk science and are known to misrepresented data and mis-designed sociological studies in order to negatively depict LGBT people, as well as fighting any laws which would help the gay community

Their place as a hate group is well deserved

2) yes this guy used the Splc's hatewatch list to pick his target but thats up to him, they have no connection to the actual crime but the FRC play this up as propeganda because the splc rightly have them listed as a hate group
Is "Black Lives Matter" on the SPLC hit list? This is the group that accuses whites of racism at the drop of a hat - for example in Baltimore when a black criminal died in police custody in 2015 - but had no comment last year when Baltimore had the highest incidence of murder in its entire history - nearly all Black on Black.

OTOH the SPLC labelled the Alliance Defending Freedom as an "anti-LGBT hate group". This is the group of conservative lawyers that recently won a case in the US Supreme Court in favour of Masterpiece Cakeshop. The SPLC label virtually everyone who does not agree with their left wing ideology an "extremist" or "hate group".

In an essay George Orwell wrote about 1940, he commented that the word "Fascism", no longer had had any meaning except to designate something that the speaker disagreed with. (The essay was probably "Politics and the English Language"). That's exactly how the Southern Poverty Law Center operates today!
 
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[video=youtube;fPVn6phiObs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPVn6phiObs[/video]

SPLC called an African American lecturer a white supremacist for writing an article about them. She says that anyone who criticises them publicly runs the risk of being labelled a hater or being placed on Hatewatch
And the thing to remember is that if you make their list a lot of media in the states will black ball you and not have you on their networks or write for them etc , but at least some of the media are now beginning to call them out as well for some of the people / organisations they have on their list.
 

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[video=youtube;fPVn6phiObs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPVn6phiObs[/video]

SPLC called an African American lecturer a white supremacist for writing an article about them. She says that anyone who criticises them publicly runs the risk of being labelled a hater or being placed on Hatewatch

Ridiculous little bullies.
 

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Is "Black Lives Matter" on the SPLC hit list? This is the group that accuses whites of racism at the drop of a hat - for example in Baltimore when a black criminal died in police custody in 2015 - but had no comment last year when Baltimore had the highest incidence of murder in its entire history - nearly all Black on Black.

OTOH the SPLC labelled the Alliance Defending Freedom as an "anti-LGBT hate group". This is the group of conservative lawyers that recently won a case in the US Supreme Court in favour of Masterpiece Cakeshop. The SPLC label virtually everyone who does not agree with their left wing ideology an "extremist" or "hate group".

In an essay George Orwell wrote about 1940, he commented that the word "Fascism", no longer had had any meaning except to designate something that the speaker disagreed with. (The essay was probably "Politics and the English Language"). That's exactly how the Southern Poverty Law Center operates today!

And here's why is considered a hate group:
Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that has supported the recriminalization of homosexuality in the U.S. and criminalization abroad; has defended state-sanctioned sterilization of trans people abroad; has linked homosexuality to pedophilia and claims that a “homosexual agenda” will destroy Christianity and society. ADF also works to develop “religious liberty” legislation and case law that will allow the denial of goods and services to LGBT people on the basis of religion
 


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