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Spanish general suggests potential invasion of Catalonia


Drogheda445

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A general in the Spanish army has pointed to possible military intervention in the region if it votes for independence in the potential referendum next year, stating that "the fatherland is above and more important than democracy".

Invasion of Catalonia an option, says general - The Irish Times - Fri, Mar 01, 2013

This article is a few days old, but very bizarre to still hear such words in this day and age. Granted, the general is obviously not very high-ranking, but there certainly appears to be some lingering Falangist/Civil War elements in Spain today, although probably not surprising considering the long period of dictatorship that governed the country up until very recently.
 
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Just because Barca are romping the league?
 

ruserious

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Absolute stupid comments from a general and he should know better.
Democracy allows the legitimacy of armed forces. Ignoring democracy creates a problem for armies.
 

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He says he was misquoted: (via google translate)

""Under no circumstances out of my mouth the justification of military intervention against secession autonomous. Quite the contrary. There I made ​​it clear the subordination of the Government's FAS which is responsible for defending the constitutional mandate of the state""

Chicharro niega haber justificado la intervención Catalunya
 

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Absolute stupid comments from a general and he should know better.
Democracy allows the legitimacy of armed forces. Ignoring democracy creates a problem for armies.
But the problem is that Spanish democracy forbids states from seceding - an army which prevented secession could easily claim to be suppressing insurrection.
 

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But the problem is that Spanish democracy forbids states from seceding - an army which prevented secession could easily claim to be suppressing insurrection.
A democratically endorsed secession would be difficult to stop by means of arms.
 

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The army remained a Falangist force into the 1980s, and high ranking members supported the attempted coup in 1981. However, when the Socialists came to power they purged the military and I would be doubtful that it would pose any meaningful threat to Spanish democracy these days, in spite of the authoritarian streak that remains within much of the Spanish Right.
 

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Spain andPortugal are relatively new democracy's. The notion that military will step in is not so far out to their people's. Dangerous times.
 

Drogheda445

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Just to point out again, the man in question claims he was misquoted.
But he's certainly not alone. Another general, mentioned at the end of the article and quoted from last September, appears to have also favoured military action. He may be misquoted but this certainly is a worrying school of thought.
 

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This should help clear the opposition benches in the Daíl.
 

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Send over Meehole Martin, and tell the Catalans to repeat the vote, until a satisfactory result is obtained...
 

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Spain andPortugal are relatively new democracy's. The notion that military will step in is not so far out to their people's. Dangerous times.
Exactly NT. There are plenty of living Iberians who happily went along with Franco and Salazar as long as there was petrol in the pumps, the trains ran on time and petty crime was low.
Ethnic minorites are very very vulnerable as they tend to live in isolated ghettoes on the outskirts of towns.
 

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A general in the Spanish army has pointed to possible military intervention in the region if it votes for independence in the potential referendum next year, stating that "the fatherland is above and more important than democracy".

Invasion of Catalonia an option, says general - The Irish Times - Fri, Mar 01, 2013

This article is a few days old, but very bizarre to still hear such words in this day and age. Granted, the general is obviously not very high-ranking, but there certainly appears to be some lingering Falangist/Civil War elements in Spain today, although probably not surprising considering the long period of dictatorship that governed the country up until very recently.


Catalunya is an autonomous region.
 

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