Spineless Irish government

paddy234

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Following the Brexit referendum i have to say the response by the southern Irish government is disgraceful, lacking of support for those in the North of Ireland. The reality is the North like Scotland voted to remain in the EU and while Scotland is doing everything to ensure they remain including a second Independence referendum the Southern Irish government has attempted to brush any claim by PSF for a border poll. They seem to respect the wishes of the English more than their countrymen and women in the North. There is no strength or backbone in Enda Kenny resembling those who voted for him
 


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Tell us what you want Enda to do....
 

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Following the Brexit referendum i have to say the response by the southern Irish government is disgraceful, lacking of support for those in the North of Ireland. The reality is the North like Scotland voted to remain in the EU and while Scotland is doing everything to ensure they remain including a second Independence referendum the Southern Irish government has attempted to brush any claim by PSF for a border poll. They seem to respect the wishes of the English more than their countrymen and women in the North. There is no strength or backbone in Enda Kenny resembling those who voted for him
The Irish Establishment is full of cowards. They can't face up to unionism, they are scared of their lives to tackle the anti Irish feeling from Unionists.

They prefer to snipe at SF instead as an easy target and prefer to make them feel that they are wrong for looking for national unity.

A proper Irish government would be supporting the Irish in the NE at all times and would reach out the hand of friendship to Unionists to put away the politics of division.
 

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The Irish Establishment is full of cowards. They can't face up to unionism, they are scared of their lives to tackle the anti Irish feeling from Unionists.

They prefer to snipe at SF instead as an easy target and prefer to make them feel that they are wrong for looking for national unity.

A proper Irish government would be supporting the Irish in the NE at all times and would reach out the hand of friendship to Unionists to put away the politics of division.
Unionists are in the majority.

What do you mean by facing up to unionism?

How do you think the unionist majority should be treated?

How do you think it would be appropriate to deal with them?
 

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Tell us what you want Enda to do....
The fact that we are told by FG/FF to respect the decision whenever we are being dragged out of the EU against the majority wishes and it will be the North which suffers most economically is disgraceful. I understand FF/FG only represent a small section of this Island as they don't even run for elections in the North but ironically they are in government in the South. The fact that Nationalists in the North are reacting in anger to this Brexit and want a border poll while those in the Southern government shoot them down and turn their backs on them is disgraceful
 

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What are you talking about - poor Enda is having a nervous breakdown over the possibility of border controls - when it is Britain's entire economy depends of a successful resolution to this.
 

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The fact that we are told by FG/FF to respect the decision whenever we are being dragged out of the EU against the majority wishes and it will be the North which suffers most economically is disgraceful. I understand FF/FG only represent a small section of this Island as they don't even run for elections in the North but ironically they are in government in the South. The fact that Nationalists in the North are reacting in anger to this Brexit and want a border poll while those in the Southern government shoot them down and turn their backs on them is disgraceful


If I were you I'd re read the GFA and try figure out what would trigger a border poll.

Here's a clue, The Irish government, Enda, Jesus himself couldn't force anyone.
 

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Following the Brexit referendum i have to say the response by the southern Irish government is disgraceful, lacking of support for those in the North of Ireland. The reality is the North like Scotland voted to remain in the EU and while Scotland is doing everything to ensure they remain including a second Independence referendum the Southern Irish government has attempted to brush any claim by PSF for a border poll. They seem to respect the wishes of the English more than their countrymen and women in the North. There is no strength or backbone in Enda Kenny resembling those who voted for him
I don't take anyone seriously who cannot say Northern Ireland.

Go on, put your bigotry to one side and say the name; N o t h e r n I r e l a n d

You'll feel better and other posters won't think of you as a political opportunist.
 

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The British electorate have done something stupid when asked by their govt something which should not have been asked.

The British government now is having an "oh sh1t" moment.

We should not stir the proverbial until we know what the hell the actual path the brits will take.

We should, however, ensure that we protect NI's interests as if they are ours. One Island irrespective of the legal status as it unfolds.

Agitating for a border poll is premature.
 

paddy234

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Unionists are in the majority.

What do you mean by facing up to unionism?

How do you think the unionist majority should be treated?

How do you think it would be appropriate to deal with them?
A small majority mate, there isn't that much difference anymore and the demographics is changing and the reality is that the Southern Government telling the North to suck up and take it against their will is spineless.
 

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Following the Brexit referendum i have to say the response by the southern Irish government is disgraceful, lacking of support for those in the North of Ireland. The reality is the North like Scotland voted to remain in the EU and while Scotland is doing everything to ensure they remain including a second Independence referendum the Southern Irish government has attempted to brush any claim by PSF for a border poll. They seem to respect the wishes of the English more than their countrymen and women in the North. There is no strength or backbone in Enda Kenny resembling those who voted for him
Surely the best thing to do at this point is nothing.

Let the implications of Britain's exit from the EU widen the divisions between Northern Ireland and the UK.

Be seen to be working hard to ensure that North South relations are maintained and not compromised.

Wading in calling for border polls now would only piss people off.

Brexit could do more for a UI than any amount of posturing by the Kildare Street school teachers association.
 

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Unionists are in the majority.

What do you mean by facing up to unionism?

How do you think the unionist majority should be treated?

How do you think it would be appropriate to deal with them?
Its about time they started convincing Unionists of the benefits of a united Ireland instead of constantly pandering to them. It's all well and good showing concern for their feelings but they have done zilch, showed no ambition, zero new thinking about how to bring it about. They're too busy protecting their own gombeen fiefdoms to produce any innovative ideas. The Torys have torched their own house and care not what happens to their neighbours gaff. Kenny is standing in the back garden shouting 'we still like you'.
 

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Hmm. Ever hear of a 2 way street? If the majority of NI Nationalists want a Border Poll then they better get off their contented holes and agitate for one. All we've seen from the majority of NI nationalists is a contented satisfaction with the status-quo. If they're exercised about a UI then it'll take more than murmurs from SF to get that message taken seriously.
 

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I don't take anyone seriously who cannot say Northern Ireland.

Go on, put your bigotry to one side and say the name; N o t h e r n I r e l a n d

You'll feel better and other posters won't think of you as a political opportunist.
Bigotry not calling it ''Northern Ireland''??? Don't be such a fool. Ireland was proclaimed as one Nation in 1916 and was voted in place in 1918 which the majority of the country supported during the general election. Britain didn't like the result so they refused to accept it and by the sounds of things you do aswell
 
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paddy234

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Surely the best thing to do at this point is nothing.

Let the implications of Britain's exit from the EU widen the divisions between Northern Ireland and the UK.

Be seen to be working hard to ensure that North South relations are maintained and not compromised.

Wading in calling for border polls now would only piss people off.

Brexit could do more for a UI than any amount of posturing by the Kildare Street school teachers association.
The problem there is that the economy in the North will suffer drastically unless something is done. The campaign for a UI needs to begin now, not necessarily the vote but the campaign to drive momentum
 

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Bigotry not calling it ''Northern Ireland''??? Don't be such a fool. Ireland was proclaimed as one Nation in 1916 and was voted in place in 1918 which the majority of the country supported during the general election. Britain didn't like the result so they refused accept it and by the sounds of things you do aswell
If you cannot accept the will of the Irish people as expressed in the referendum following the Good Friday Agreement, you are a bigot, and possibly much worse.
 

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The problem there is that the economy in the North will suffer drastically unless something is done. The campaign for a UI needs to begin now, not necessarily the vote but the campaign to drive momentum
It is those implications that might ultimately swing moderates towards a UI..

A border poll now would fail.
 


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