Sporting Fingal win the FAI Cup

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“Community is everything in this Club”, explained David O’Connor, Fingal County Manager, at the launch of the club in Corduff during February 2008. “Community is the foundation on which the club and our football development plan are built and each football club in Fingal can rightfully feel that Sporting Fingal FC is their League of Ireland club.”
http://www.sportingfingal.ie/AboutUs/tabid/1303/Default.aspx

With all the shenanigans, sharp practice and financial nonsense that has blackened the League of Ireland in recent times, it was fantastic to see Sporting Fingal, a club built on solid, sustainable principles, lift the FAI Cup this evening. (not that fantastic, they knocked the Hoops out and then had the cheek to win it in our gaff ;) ). Although having a club like that win it in a stadium supported by the local authority and packed out weekly by the people of Tallaght and beyond is a fact that should not be lost on other clubs who have brought the game into the headlines for all the wrong reasons.

It was a cracking second half and won with 2 goals in the last 5 minutes. Both teams deserve credit for playing the way they did in those conditions and the Sligo fans should be lauded for travelling down.

8,000 at the game - good considering the distance Sligo fans had to travel in this weather and the distance Fingal have yet to travel in terms of establishing themselves and a fan base.

Sympathy for the other Rovers but a good day for Irish football.
 


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WHAT has this got to do with politics you crazy fool?
Read the replies to the other hundred posts like yours that have asked the same question in the past.

Read my post again and if you can't see the link between football and "Culture and Community", leave the site, read some books, then come back and apologise for wasting our time and bandwidth

(ah hah hah, jelpor, the newbie with a red box for every 20 posts, just tried to neg rep me for this thread... ah hah hah, brilliant)
 

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WHAT has this got to do with politics you crazy fool?
look up the word 'community' on the interweb.

A few points:
1. Having a cup final in mid.november does not lend itself to good football and promoting the domestic game.
2. The use of a small stadium speaks volumes on the popularity of the state of football in ireland.
3. Having a video ref for the penalty would be of little assistance. It would just delay the game and unless the ref views it, it would be delegation without benefit.
4.Paul Cook's interview was refreshing in a week of whinging about what ifs.
5. The match was dreadful for most of it, but did liveo up.
 

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A few points:
1. Having a cup final in mid.november does not lend itself to good football and promoting the domestic game.
I know what you mean but what is the solution other than reverting to an August to May season? Can we have a mid-season cup final? That'd be weird

2. The use of a small stadium speaks volumes on the popularity of the state of football in ireland.
Do they plan on going back to Lansdowne at all?? Tallaght fits around 11,000 with the temp seats whereas the RDS fit around 15,000 or so for last seasons game. The simple fact is, barring a Rovers vs Bohs final, there won't be any more than 15,000 at an FAI Cup final

4.Paul Cook's interview was refreshing in a week of whinging about what ifs.
Yeh he's a good man alright

5. The match was dreadful for most of it, but did liveo up.
The second half was good and certainly would not have sent the wrong message out about the LoI.

But the result was about more than that. It's about seeing well run clubs who know where football belongs, being rewarded.
 

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Go away Alonso you fool!! You deserve your neg rep.
Pity yours don't count then eh.... Start your own thread called "Alonso is a fool" if you like but stay off ones i start. For your own good, as you only come across as a massive tit.
 

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Sporting Fingal FC > About Us

With all the shenanigans, sharp practice and financial nonsense that has blackened the League of Ireland in recent times, it was fantastic to see Sporting Fingal, a club built on solid, sustainable principles, lift the FAI Cup this evening. (not that fantastic, they knocked the Hoops out and then had the cheek to win it in our gaff ;) ). Although having a club like that win it in a stadium supported by the local authority and packed out weekly by the people of Tallaght and beyond is a fact that should not be lost on other clubs who have brought the game into the headlines for all the wrong reasons.
Sporting Fingal are funded by one of Fianna Fáil's biggest property developer mates Gerry Gannon

yes the same Gerry Gannon who alongside Fingal County Council has screwed up vast areas of Fingal with disgusting poorly planned dvelopments that will have long losting impacts

and the same Gerry Gannon who is a member of the Golden Circle that will eventually cost the taxpayers god knows how much - 'Anglo 10' each borrowed sums of up to €56.5m - The Irish Times - Fri, Oct 09, 2009

Sporting Fingal are the most wildly unsustainable entity to ever grace the league of Ireland. Some of their attendances this season have been as low as 200 yet they operate on a full-time professional operation with a playing wage bill of €20,000 per week + perks such as free rent on apartments from Gannon and free university places in DCU. If they were living within their means and not on property developer income I would take an educated guess they could operate on a part-time basis on around €4,000 per week like comparable First Division clubs.

Gannon is serious financial difficulty, he has had to sign over his house to the wife and is been taken to court over unpaid bills etc. I suspect Gannon will be saved because he is one of Anglos biggest customers and due to NAMA but if Gannon goes bust Sporting Fingal go with him and as this lot are a project of Fingal County Council it would dwarf the laughling stock that has been Cork City, Derry and the likes
 

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You sure about all that? There's no mention of Gannon on their site and if they were hiding the link they would certainly also hide their sponsorship by Anglo irish...
 

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I'd like to think that the above story has no basis in fact, bit there you go.

That said, its a nice way to wind up the LoI year.

There's been the good, the bad, and the ugly this year.

The good was Rovers assault on the title. Its good to see that if you get your affairs in order. you can turn out a great stadium and build a sustainable taem and club that plays good football.

It has to be said though, that its probably best that Bohs won the league. Were they to go bust, that would be disasterous for the game.

There's been various bad. Kildare County, for instance.

The ugly (and ridiculous) involved Cork. Couldn't even pay the bus driver? FFS.

Looking forward to zipping out to Tallaght a good few times again next year.
 

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You sure about all that? There's no mention of Gannon on their site and if they were hiding the link they would certainly also hide their sponsorship by Anglo irish...
Yes, it appears that this is the ff donor/beneficiary's club. Gerry gannon brought the consortium together and the financing from Anglo. He owns 74% with Fingal co co owning the balance.

A quick google search led to question to the chairman of council. i feel ill.

Thanks to likely lad for the insight
 
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If it was up to me I would scrap the EA Sports cup and have the cup final in August/September.

We don't need a secondary competition like the league cup in this country.
 

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Yes, it appears that this is the ff donor/beneficiary's club. Gerry gannon brought the consortium together and the financing from Anglo. He owns 74% with Fingal co co owning the balance.

A quick google search led to question to the chairman of council. i feel ill.

Thanks to likely lad for the insight
if fingal co co own 26% of what could be another financially unviable loi club, would they be liable for any debts, and thus us the taxpayer, if they follow alot of other loi clubs to a rendez vous with the sheriff.

How the hell can you have 20k week wage bill for a club with 200 supporters?
Christ alot of those 200 could be bloody council workers on OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing would surpise me any more in this country
 

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Is it beneficial for a club like franchise to be in europe next season? is it financially worth it if you dont make the group stages or at least latter rouns so you get a big tie.

fingal could be alright tho. they have a nice team. play some quality football.
 

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Why haven't the mods closed down this non-political spam thread yet?
You mean this thread about a football club set up on the initiative of a local authority, as a cultural community-building project?

I suppose they've left it open for the same reason they haven't closed the whole culture and community section of the site.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_Fingal_F.C.

The consortium of backers are Twinite (a property development company), Keelings (a fruit and vegetable distributor) and Anglo Irish Bank Corporation PLC

Which contradicts with the presentation below which states Twinlite are sponsors and Gannon is the owner. See page 5 here

http://www.fdb.ie/members/Sporting_Fingal_FDBAGM_presentation08.pdf

Unless Gannon has since pulled out?
Gannon is still there (or at least his money is for now);Twinlite have serious development interests in the Tyrellstown area; Anglo and developers, including Gannon, we know about; the Keelings, as well as being distributors of vegetables, are one of the largest land owners in the north county. The Council envisages, or did until recently, massive development in the north County. The potential for apparent or real conflicts of interest were obviously not a consideration.

Interestingly Sporting's wiki page did originally acknowledge Gannon's involvement as "an act of Corporate Social Responsibility" or some such, it was deleted some time back however.

As for the 'heart of the community/community-based' guff make of it what you will but there was zero community involvement in this at any stage in its genesis or roll-out (quite the opposite in fact). Talking to some in the Council a distinct impression of a hubristic vanity project is hard to avoid.
 

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With all the shenanigans, sharp practice and financial nonsense that has blackened the League of Ireland in recent times, it was fantastic to see Sporting Fingal, a club built on solid, sustainable principles, lift the FAI Cup this evening.
Congratulations to Fingal but I'm unsure of your comment regarding the sustainability of this club.

The average attendance was 635 people, down 7% on 2008.

I have no idea how a club pays for electricity, nevermind payers wages from an average gate of 635.
 


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