St. Vincent's Catholic hospital already does abortions

Emily Davison

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Abortions already at St. Vincent's Catholic hospital

Apparently it has been confirmed that St Vincent's have already performed abortions. Is this a first in the world for a Catholic hospital? That they carry out abortions. How is this in any way compatible with Catholic ethos?

Abortions to save women's lives are carried out at St Vincent's - Independent.ie

If they are willing to do abortions does this mean the Catholic Church in Ireland is no longer anti abortion. Will they therefore not be in opposition to the forthcoming referendum on the 8th.

If this is true, then why do they not do sterilisations.

If a Catholic hospital can do abortions then why does the Catholic Mater hospital not prescribe or allow the contraceptive pill.

Does Vincent's prescribe or allow the contraceptive pill.

Any poster know if either hospital pharmacy stocks condoms? A standard product in any pharmacy.
 
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Apparently it has been confirmed that St Vincent's have already performed out abortions. Is this a first in the world for a Catholic hospital? That they carry out abortions. How is this in any way compatible with Catholic ethos?
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I'm surprised that you didn't know already know this; doctors under certain circumstances have been carrying about abortions in Catholic hospitals since whenever in cases where it has been necessary to save the mothers life. This is why the whole thing about "Savita" been killed because of the 8 th is hyperbole.
 

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The Irish race is dying because of your generations nihilism. A Patriotic government would consider banning contraception.
 

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The Irish race is dying because of your generations nihilism. A Patriotic government would consider banning contraception.
Nightmare.

How many kids do you have yourself? Six? Seven? Any less would be nihilism and you killing the Irish race.

If you had none that would be some laugh though. A case of do as I say.
 

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Anyway stopdoingstuff I was very pleased to see on that poll that if you could you would be voting for the wonderful Marine despite the nasty National Review slandering her and promoting that dirty little spiv Marcon. You are coming on.
 

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Apparently it has been confirmed that St Vincent's have already performed out abortions. Is this a first in the world for a Catholic hospital? That they carry out abortions. How is this in any way compatible with Catholic ethos?

Abortions to save women's lives are carried out at St Vincent's - Independent.ie

If they are willing to do abortions does this mean the Catholic Church in Ireland is no longer anti abortion. Will they therefore not be in opposition to the forthcoming referendum on the 8th.

If this is true, then why do they not do sterilisations.

If a Catholic hospital can do abortions then why does the Catholic Mater hospital not prescribe or allow the contraceptive pill.

Does Vincent's prescribe or allow the contraceptive pill.

Any poster know if either hospital pharmacy stocks condoms? A standard product in any pharmacy.
I would say that it does not actually go against the concept of saving human life

Obviously if the Mother dies then it is highly likely the foetus will too

To save one life is surely not immoral?

This is a real Good News story folks

A baby has been born in Portugal almost four months after his mother was declared brain-dead.

The boy, who weighed 5lb 3oz (2.4kg), was delivered by caesarean section at Lisbon’s São José hospital at 32 weeks, after his mother, 37, suffered a brain haemorrhage on 20 February.

The decision to continue with the pregnancy was made in consultation with the father.

Apparently there have been recent cases in Poland, USA and the UK

But not in Ireland apparently

- where such practises are seen as 'barbaric' and 'medieval' left overs from the days we were ruled from Rome....

Well its heartening to see that at least in some parts of the World the Right to Life of the unborn

- is still upheld...

Though see here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/08/baby-born-to-brain-dead-mother-in-portugal
 

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I would say that it does not actually go against the concept of saving human life

Obviously if the Mother dies then it is highly likely the foetus will too

To save one life is surely not immoral?

This is a real Good News story folks

A baby has been born in Portugal almost four months after his mother was declared brain-dead.

The boy, who weighed 5lb 3oz (2.4kg), was delivered by caesarean section at Lisbon’s São José hospital at 32 weeks, after his mother, 37, suffered a brain haemorrhage on 20 February.

The decision to continue with the pregnancy was made in consultation with the father.

Apparently there have been recent cases in Poland, USA and the UK

But not in Ireland apparently

- where such practises are seen as 'barbaric' and 'medieval' left overs from the days we were ruled from Rome....

Well its heartening to see that at least in some parts of the World the Right to Life of the unborn

- is still upheld...

Though see here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/08/baby-born-to-brain-dead-mother-in-portugal
Far too many capital letters in the middle of sentences. Must be a perfect sort of story for the intense catholic. Woman as gro-bag for a foetus.
 

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There are a few issues beyond ethos:
1) why does FG have a problem with state ownership of a national hospital?
2) why do doctors save same issue?
3) will Ulster bank allow hospital to transfer lands to the State, given it has been pawned already?
4) is there anything in the agreement which prevents any future use of the enhanced land as collateral?
5) how can the board's independence be safe when it has targeted dr Boylan, who wants the independence protected?
 

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There are a few issues beyond ethos:
1) why does FG have a problem with state ownership of a national hospital?
2) why do doctors save same issue?
3) will Ulster bank allow hospital to transfer lands to the State, given it has been pawned already?
4) is there anything in the agreement which prevents any future use of the enhanced land as collateral?
5) how can the board's independence be safe when it has targeted dr Boylan, who wants the independence protected?
The hospital isn't going to happen.
 

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In an unusual move the Minister for Culture, the Gaelteacht and Tickets to Man U Games is going to give away next week the National Conference Centre to the Kinehans.
 

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Totally undercuts any fears about the maternity hospital.
Not at all. Potential changes of mind are still a huge concern, as are the conditions under which abortions are permitted, not to mention all the other "ethically problematic" procedures that the also offer only under limited conditions or decline to offer at all.

Then there remains the issue of the fact that they still appear to be getting an entirely unearned present of at least €300 M from the taxpayer.

Finally, there's the symbolism. As everyone who has ever had an interest in NI politics, symbolism is extremely important.
 

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It is the latest in privatisation wheezes. The xtian brothers are set to get the new tunnel between Dun Laoghaire and Swansea and Sean Brady is being gifted Fota Wildlife Park in Cork.
 


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