Stalinists at NTA find solution to Dublin transport crisis: Buses

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After many decades of incompetence and corruption Dublin has degenerated into a three zone city.

(1) a fully welfare dependent, crime-ridden, junkie infested, inner zone
(2) a nearly equally squalid outer zone of ugly housing estates with poor infrastructure and intractable social problems
(3) a charming middle zone consisting of elegant edwardian, victorian and georgian housing with vibrant amenities

Geniuses at the National Transport Authority have come up with a plan to link the inner and outer shïtholes by demolishing the middle zone.

To make way for wider bus lanes and cycle paths, thousands of well established houses will have their front gardens demolished. Or worse.

Much of Dublin's finest exterior architecture is to be bulldozed so that inner city shoplifters can get more quickly to out-of-town shopping centres. CPOs will be used to crush any resistance. It's a stroke of Stalinist Genius. Or Maoist.

Dublins transport problems are real, but this destructive cheapskate plan isn't a solution. It just kicks the can down the road and will cause irreversible damage.

The fabric of the city is fragile. It must be protected from idiots pushing bad policy.
(1) a fully welfare dependent, crime-ridden, junkie infested, inner zone
(2) a nearly equally squalid outer zone of ugly housing estates with poor infrastructure and intractable social problems
(3) a charming middle zone consisting of elegant edwardian, victorian and georgian housing with vibrant amenities

DÉAN, NÍ FÉIDIR LEIS AN TREOIRÍ A DHÉANAMH LEIS le do dhearcadh aicme uachtarach
 


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(1) a fully welfare dependent, crime-ridden, junkie infested, inner zone
(2) a nearly equally squalid outer zone of ugly housing estates with poor infrastructure and intractable social problems
(3) a charming middle zone consisting of elegant edwardian, victorian and georgian housing with vibrant amenities

DÉAN, NÍ FÉIDIR LEIS AN TREOIRÍ A DHÉANAMH LEIS le do dhearcadh aicme uachtarach
Au contraire, mon ami.


It is the Stalinists of NTA who believe that buses is all that the knackers of Blanchardstown or Swords deserve.

My view is that Dubliners deserve much, much better
 

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What about the LUAS going through the Phoenix Park ?

It would be fantastic for Castleknock, Carpenterstown, Blanchardstown even.....

Bring it to the Castleknock Gates.
 

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Au contraire, mon ami.


It is the Stalinists of NTA who believe that buses is all that the knackers of Blanchardstown or Swords deserve.

My view is that Dubliners deserve much, much better
Dublin Bus is a government protected cartel.

That’s why Dublin will never have a subway.

Gombeenism.
 

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Is there a chance the track could bend?
Grandpa: Where you sent here by the devil?

Lyle Lanley: No good sir, I'm on the level!
 

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What about the LUAS going through the Phoenix Park ?

It would be fantastic for Castleknock, Carpenterstown, Blanchardstown even.....

Bring it to the Castleknock Gates.
The green luas line is to be extended to Finglas and a new luas line will connect Ballyfermot.

Both established but brutally neglected area that deserve proper transport infrastructure.
 

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The green luas line is to be extended to Finglas and a new luas line will connect Ballyfermot.

Both established but brutally neglected area that deserve proper transport infrastructure.
Cool, but a line through Park would be ideal.

Tourist attractions and taking cars out of Park and out of City

All those Range Rovers :)
 

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Dublin Bus is a government protected cartel.

That’s why Dublin will never have a subway.

Gombeenism.

Yeah the only thing preventing a subway system is the hold bus drivers have over government decision making., Trams they will stand for, giving their bus routes to a private company they will accept, but bus drivers draw the line at a subway.

FFS does your carer know you're on the internet ?
 

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Spacious, elegant, safe, the Moscow Metro is a tribute to Soviet engineering and planning.
Let's hope there are those in Dublin transportation with some of the same vision, even if it means Voltaire can't park his car in the doorway of his favourite shop.
Except that lots of countries have built fine metros without recourse to genocidal leftie totalitarianism, just good road road networks have been built without adopting Hitlerian Nationalist Socialism.

At least the Nazis built their own roads. Moscow subway was built by engineers from London Underground.
 

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NTA Stalinist on RTE drivetime promoting this insane attack on our beautiful city.

If they succeed, these arrogant statists will be back to seize yet more private property, for "the greater good" i.e. for buses.

Fücking morons.
 

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NTA Stalinist on RTE drivetime promoting this insane attack on our beautiful city.

If they succeed, these arrogant statists will be back to seize yet more private property, for "the greater good" i.e. for buses.

Fücking morons.
Isn't Lord Lieutenants Ross in charge of this? I thought he was a capitalist roader!
 

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We need more social mobility in both the figurative and literal sense.
 

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I live within a mile of O’Connell Street. Dublin, not perfect ofc, is a great place to live.
I had to serve court documents on Eirgrid in Ballsbridge last year and came back into Town on the bus, Anything like the yuppie young women with the braces on their teeth. The most swanky English Shire would not hold a candle to them.
 

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I had to serve court documents on Eirgrid in Ballsbridge last year and came back into Town on the bus, Anything like the yuppie young women with the braces on their teeth. The most swanky English Shire would not hold a candle to them.
Nobody ask him what he served and why. Thats all this post is about.
 

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In fairness the Navan rd is an absolute nightmare in the Rush Hour

But while the can demolish peoples gardens to increase the flow it will just mean 10 years from now they will be back in the same sticky jam....

 

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In fairness the Navan rd is an absolute nightmare in the Rush Hour

But while the can demolish peoples gardens to increase the flow it will just mean 10 years from now they will be back in the same sticky jam....

Long-term damage for short-term gain.

That is precisely the opposite of what good governance and sustainable planning are about.

Fücking imbecility which Dubliners should fight tooth and nail.
 

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https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Bus-Rapid-Transit-Core-Network-report11.pdf

8.2 General Proposed Measures: In order to provide for fully segregated BRT lanes the following measures have been used for this engineering evaluation:

a. Use existing bus lanes wherever available;
b. Use existing hard shoulders along national primary routes or widening the same with possible new retaining structures if in cutting, where no existing bus lanes are available;
c. Extend existing bus lanes to stop lines at junctions. To do so, either the left turn for general traffic is brought across the BRT lane on the left side in advance to the junction, or the BRT lane is kept on the left side and full provision for turning lanes is proposed. If existing junction is constrained by buildings, then in most cases traffic capacity reduction is considered where approaching lanes are combined into one. At some junctions, banning the turning movements could be implemented;
d. On-street parking is removed where present;
e. Footpaths are narrowed down to a minimum of 2.0m and trees are removed where necessary, subject to survey and assessment (If mature trees are present decisions must be taken on a case by case basis);
f. Cycle lanes are relocated. If the relocation of cycle lanes is necessary an assessment of alternative cycle route options will be carried out. Lower speed limits coupled with reduced lanes widths will also be assessed prior to decisions being made;
g. General traffic is banned in one direction (one way system is implemented) where lateral land take would be required over long sections. Other traffic management measures including the relocation of general traffic completely to accommodate the BRT running lanes or providing local access would also be considered. Along these sections an assessment on whether it is viable to operate a single land loop type arrangement based on the existing adjoining road network; and
h. The need for property acquisition will be assessed on a case by case basis. Property take is considered in a hierarchical manner starting with gardens and only in very extreme cases at local bottlenecks, acquiring and removing buildings. This also will have to be looked at in detail in the next design stage.
 

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Living between Dublin and Copenhagen I find it fascinating how the Danes have such a fantastic public transport system compared to Dublin’s.

The Danes like the rest of the world have embraced underground and elevated metro\train tracks decades ago while here in Ireland we are still stuck in the car\bus mindset.

Our surface roads are at max capacity and the obvious solution is to create new dedicated and unobstructed underground and elevated roadways for metro-trains that flow freely and don’t compete with car, bicycle and pedestrian traffic.
 


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