State OAP Age Set To Be The Highest In The World!

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According to the front page of the Indo, the raising of the state old age pension to 68 will be the highest pension age in the world, yet another Apartheidal gift from our betters!

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-independent/20180529/281479277089289

And this is absolutely no surprise whatsoever given that our lovely decision makers can retire young and on massive pensions themselves!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I was listening to the wonderful Regina Doherty speaking on the wireless yesterday, she is it seems inviting proposals on pension reform, she was asking do we need to raise PRSI Contributions, do we have to look at eligibility criteria? BY 2021 the system is broke apparently!

Let's get this straight we cannot have our senior citizens in 4th world poverty especially while the great and the good are pisssing themselves laughing all the way to the bank!

Aul Blueshirt Blythe is remembered for taking a schilling of the old age pension and his ilk weren't forgiven this for generations!

The reality is that in the BMW Region, it's not the economy, stupid, it's the social welfare system, stupid!

While the Blueshirts would love with a passion, pension destruction, it's highly unlikely they will have the numbers to govern without coalition partners, so this will really test the metal of The Shinners and Eff Effers as it is only with their collaboration, that these savage measures can be brought through!

One of the highly predictable consequences of the housing scandal is that OAPs on the regular state pension, who are privately renting are being in particular ridden red raw and this will only get worse!

I think I also have the proposal to bring in compulsory pension contributions from private sector workers in with some requirement for employers to throw a schilling or two in as well and the sate throwing in a penny or two. Essentially, the worry, I would have with this is that it will be classic Paddyism. the state will use it as an excuse to act the right royal bollex - by throwing 50 cents in the pot, they will be excused from throwing €50, which relatively is what they would need to be doing and scumbag employers will use their contribution as an excuse not to raise wages, in fact some BMW Sleeveens will use it as an excuse to reduce wages!

The only way to go is to go The New Zealand Model Route. Stop outrageous public sector pensions, stop all tax reliefs on private pensions and use the gains to ensure all our OAPs have decent pensions and if it takes a referendum to bring this about, well have one! Anybody who wished would still have the option of paying for a private pension, if they wished! Of course as this proposal would hit the decision makers and the great and the good, there is even more of a likelihood of having a universal healthcare system, which will of course never ever happen!


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People need to work longer because they live longer. They are also in better shape to do so.
 

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The OAP age should be 70.
They should also raise the minimum age limit for claiming the dole to 25.

Time for people to stop relying on the taxpayer without first sufficiently contributing.
It's simply unaffordable.
 

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More propaganda from the media comic operation owned by FG's pal.

They are not giving us anything. It is our tax money. And at the rate that they are wasting it, there will be none there when we reach retirement age.

This is just another example of Tax Non Dom Media trying to create false confidence. You can blow your money now, because you are going to be rich when you are retire. Stop moaning, you should feel guilty over the generosity of the extortionate state run racket.



If pensions are going to be that good, then how come the three billionaires who own INM are not tax resident here ?

 
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People need to work longer because they live longer. They are also in better shape to do so.
And for many nothing will guarantee a reduction in life expectancy than forcing them to work longer!:mad:

Also it is in the state's interest for working to die while still in the workforce so it wont incur a state pension liability!

The whole thing is stomach churningly revolting!

Also those that can retire early are very often in pen pushing highly unstressful jobs, the whole set up is bollexed!
 

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The OAP age should be 70.
They should also raise the minimum age limit for claiming the dole to 25.

Time for people to stop relying on the taxpayer without first sufficiently contributing.
It's simply unaffordable.
I take it, you are one of the great and the good!
 

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More propaganda from the media comic operation owned by FG's pal.

They are not giving us anything. It is our tax money. And at the rate that they are wasting it, there will be none there when we reach retirement age.
But they have exposed the madness of this!
 

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Oddly enough the lovely Paschal has risen the state OAP by a tenner while Minister for finance!
 

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As well as looking after the self employed.

Well done HBAP / FG

I really hope that HBAP cuts the tax relief available on pensions to 30%
 

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As well as looking after the self employed.

Well done HBAP / FG

I really hope that HBAP cuts the tax relief available on pensions to 30%

Circle jerk between the media oligarch and FG here.
 

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Funnily enough when this was introduced in 2012 there was little or no comment on it.

ICTU have finally raised the matter, 6 years later.


And General, you really need to move, or else stop frequenting the places in Galway where employers treat their staff with contempt, its not good for your mental health!
 

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As well as looking after the self employed.

Well done HBAP / FG

I really hope that HBAP cuts the tax relief available on pensions to 30%
Well if the Blueshirts cut the higher tax relief on pensions, they will be disproportionately effecting their core supporters, rather like the Labour Party yokes lusting to bring in the water tax!
 

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Funnily enough when this was introduced in 2012 there was little or no comment on it.

ICTU have finally raised the matter, 6 years later.


And General, you really need to move, or else stop frequenting the places in Galway where employers treat their staff with contempt, its not good for your mental health!
Unfortunately, in Galway, sleeveen employers are very much the norm!
You could actually end up doing a €50K per year job for €20K!
 

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The word reform now means an attack.

In France Macron introduced 'labour reforms' which attacked job security and wages. The Fine Gael 'pension reforms' are part of the same attack by the same class and with the same objective - getting more cash for the state-sponsored 'private' sector and the numerous quangos, charities, committees and commissions where they reward those in the circle.
 

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The word reform now means an attack.

In France Macron introduced 'labour reforms' which attacked job security and wages. The Fine Gael 'pension reforms' are part of the same attack by the same class and with the same objective - getting more cash for the state-sponsored 'private' sector and the numerous quangos, charities, committees and commissions where they reward those in the circle.
As I have always said had they been the major party of power here, they would have even have out eff effed Fianna Fail and ordinary folk would even be in greater shyte than they already are!
The Koontz might still get there yet!:mad:
 

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This OP is toxic. Responding only to the first sentence how is this move "apartheidal"?


According to the front page of the Indo, the raising of the state old age pension to 68 will be the highest pension age in the world, yet another Apartheidal gift from our betters!

https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/irish-independent/20180529/281479277089289

And this is absolutely no surprise whatsoever given that our lovely decision makers can retire young and on massive pensions themselves!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I was listening to the wonderful Regina Doherty speaking on the wireless yesterday, she is it seems inviting proposals on pension reform, she was asking do we need to raise PRSI Contributions, do we have to look at eligibility criteria? BY 2021 the system is broke apparently!

Let's get this straight we cannot have our senior citizens in 4th world poverty especially while the great and the good are pisssing themselves laughing all the way to the bank!

Aul Blueshirt Blythe is remembered for taking a schilling of the old age pension and his ilk weren't forgiven this for generations!

The reality is that in the BMW Region, it's not the economy, stupid, it's the social welfare system, stupid!

While the Blueshirts would love with a passion, pension destruction, it's highly unlikely they will have the numbers to govern without coalition partners, so this will really test the metal of The Shinners and Eff Effers as it is only with their collaboration, that these savage measures can be brought through!

One of the highly predictable consequences of the housing scandal is that OAPs on the regular state pension, who are privately renting are being in particular ridden red raw and this will only get worse!

I think I also have the proposal to bring in compulsory pension contributions from private sector workers in with some requirement for employers to throw a schilling or two in as well and the sate throwing in a penny or two. Essentially, the worry, I would have with this is that it will be classic Paddyism. the state will use it as an excuse to act the right royal bollex - by throwing 50 cents in the pot, they will be excused from throwing €50, which relatively is what they would need to be doing and scumbag employers will use their contribution as an excuse not to raise wages, in fact some BMW Sleeveens will use it as an excuse to reduce wages!

The only way to go is to go The New Zealand Model Route. Stop outrageous public sector pensions, stop all tax reliefs on private pensions and use the gains to ensure all our OAPs have decent pensions and if it takes a referendum to bring this about, well have one! Anybody who wished would still have the option of paying for a private pension, if they wished! Of course as this proposal would hit the decision makers and the great and the good, there is even more of a likelihood of having a universal healthcare system, which will of course never ever happen!


:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

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Highest VAT rate in the world.

Highest excise tax on a car, in the OECD outside Singapore, and a handful of others.

Plus all the debts written down for one business interest.

And highest cost of any bank bailout per taxpayer in the world.


We must be "punching above our weight again".
 

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Funnily enough when this was introduced in 2012 there was little or no comment on it.

ICTU have finally raised the matter, 6 years later.


And General, you really need to move, or else stop frequenting the places in Galway where employers treat their staff with contempt, its not good for your mental health!
Well, I guarantee, we wont be seeing any union led nationwide general strikes and mass protests over it! Pensioners may come out in large numbers though as they have before!
And pensioners do vote!
 

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Unfortunately, in Galway, sleeveen employers are very much the norm!
You could actually end up doing a €50K per year job for €20K!
I think its time you took personal responsibility for this shocking abuse and stop giving them your money.
 

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And for many nothing will guarantee a reduction in life expectancy than forcing them to work longer!:mad:

Also it is in the state's interest for working to die while still in the workforce so it wont incur a state pension liability!

The whole thing is stomach churningly revolting!

Also those that can retire early are very often in pen pushing highly unstressful jobs, the whole set up is bollexed!
There are less younger people to support more older people. And more money is required to support people if they are living longer in retirement. Its not sustainable.
 


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