Stephen Hawking: We've 1,000 years left

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According to Professor Hawking we have 1,000 years left to get our act together and get off this planet for somewhere else in the solar system. He figures that there are four factors that explain this:

1. Our propensity to repeat mistakes, which history tells us we do all the time and our potential for self destruction.
2. Artificial Intelligence deciding we're surplus to requirements, think Terminator. He argues that AI weapon systems should be banned from shooting humans, without a human pressing the button, i.e. restrict that they can do to avoid disaster.
3. Climate change impacting in a disastrous manner.
4. Aliens. He is convinced that they exist and that they would likely be vastly superior technology wise that if they decided they wanted to plunder our planet, our resistance would be as effective as bacteria.

Scaremongering from a guy who should know better or we better pay attention to what he is warning of?

Humanity only has around 1,000 years left on Earth, Stephen Hawking predicts - ScienceAlert
 


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Jaysus moi thought he was talking about dear leader...
 

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I think Stephen is being a tad optimistic..........:rolleyes:
 

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It might be an improvement if AI took over.

You have to wonder. Even as global warming is taking effect the cutting down of the rainforests is accellerating and this is not being addressed on a global level.

It's things like that when 1. we know the problem and 2.how it could be addressed, the problem could kill us off and 3. The problem is not being addressed. Same with the way we ignore renewable energy, poison the oceans etc. We know the problem which we ignore anyway.

On the surface humanity is sophisticated, clever, highly organised but on another level it's just plain dysfunctional and stupid. We are somewhere between the lone wolf and the hive ( rather like a hive of lone wolves - individualism governed by money in a collective association) which isn't working well now that we have planet altering powers at our disposal.
 

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4. Aliens. He is convinced that they exist and that they would likely be vastly superior technology wise that if they decided they wanted to plunder our planet, our resistance would be as effective as bacteria.
If they evolve as life on Earth evolved (and they would) then they would be vicious potentially - programmed to dominate and unfathomably different and we empathise (but again i am extrapolating human calculations and sentiments onto the unknowable) with things that are more similar to us which they may do too. The only way to meet aliens is if we have the upper hand which isn't happening any time soon.

The fact that there seems to be no evidence of extraterrestrials on Earth and that the Earth planet has been green for a billion years would seem to suggest that statistically at least we should be alright in this little tiny section of history in which we live. So maybe deliberately advertising our existence to the stars is not such a good idea? In fact it is an awful idea.

When Hawking suggests we go into space and establish colonies in the solar system he is hoping that those colonies might develop independent politics - they might develop and grow the ethics humanity lacks here on Earth - eg wastefulness would be sinful there, abundance nonexistence, pollution a serious issue - humanity would learn in a whole way how to survive in a sustainable way if he had to survive on a colony on Mars. Provided those colonies were staffed by high IQ people and not say criminals. Partitioning humanity in different regions might be a solution to the problem 'our ways of thinking are going to destroy us'.
 
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Well we won't be long in finding out whether AI is ultimately friend or foe. There are programmes now that are actually learning by themselves. And it isn't just down to programmed multi-choice pathways.

At the moment it is primitive. Unless protections are built in to such programming along the lines of Azimov's Laws of Robotics then there's no reason some day why a programme shouldn't decide that earth would operate more efficiently without humans.

In a sense that decision is already being operated on. Darpa in the states have been running competitions to develop driverless vehicles which can think their way around obstacles and threats..

Not because they want to save you money in getting home but because the US military has realised that sending live soldiers into combat zones is unpopular and doesn't look good on the news nor do body bags coming back through airports. So what it wants is autonomous robots with chain guns operating well out of the sight of the media in enemy territory and laying waste to anything that moves.

Onboard film would be the property of the US military and classified.
 

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Plenty of time left for me before I die so, and same for anyone else alive today.

Happy days!
 

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Should be okay. The biggest risk facing humanity today in my opinion is an airborne species crossing disease.

If you think about it overpopulation is the thing there.

I was reading lately about the study of Tasmanian Devils who had been hunted almost to extinction, then protected, then became a huge overpopulation issue, at which point nature stepped in with a nasty little cancer which reduced the population substantially.

The latest thing is reports that the Tasmanian devils now that they have been sufficiently humbled have started developing an immunity or resistance to the cancer that nearly did for the lot of them.

We aren't that much different from Tasmanian Devils. Not from the point of view of nature.
 

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I actually sat through a lecture about seven or eight years ago given by an eminent specialist in disease tracking - a veterinarian.

At one point he said that in his opinion species-crossing mutating diseases were a huge threat- and then without blinking said 'what if SARs mutated and got into a pet population?

Of course he was referring to the possible loss of little doggies and so on. I was looking at his powerpoint presentation and thinking uncomfortably 'never mind the bloody doggies- humans are a species too'.
 

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Well the good news there is that some people at least will survive in Ireland as it is relatively lowly populated in terms of human density.

China and India- Asia generally would be fairly f*cked though.
 

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If they evolve as life on Earth evolved (and they would) then they would be vicious potentially - programmed to dominate and unfathomably different and we empathise (but again i am extrapolating human calculations and sentiments onto the unknowable) with things that are more similar to us which they may do too. The only way to meet aliens is if we have the upper hand which isn't happening any time soon.

The fact that there seems to be no evidence of extraterrestrials on Earth and that the Earth planet has been green for a billion years would seem to suggest that statistically at least we should be alright in this little tiny section of history in which we live. So maybe deliberately advertising our existence to the stars is not such a good idea? In fact it is an awful idea.

When Hawking suggests we go into space and establish colonies in the solar system he is hoping that those colonies might develop independent politics - they might develop and grow the ethics humanity lacks here on Earth - eg wastefulness would be sinful there, abundance nonexistence, pollution a serious issue - humanity would learn in a whole way how to survive in a sustainable way if he had to survive on a colony on Mars. Provided those colonies were staffed by high IQ people and not say criminals. Partitioning humanity in different regions might be a solution to the problem 'our ways of thinking are going to destroy us'.

I personally hope that we never venture too far into space.

The way things are going, we're bound to f*ck up any other place that we decide to infest.
 

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I actually sat through a lecture about seven or eight years ago given by an eminent specialist in disease tracking - a veterinarian.

At one point he said that in his opinion species-crossing mutating diseases were a huge threat- and then without blinking said 'what if SARs mutated and got into a pet population?

Of course he was referring to the possible loss of little doggies and so on. I was looking at his powerpoint presentation and thinking uncomfortably 'never mind the bloody doggies- humans are a species too'.

I think the biggest threat of that sort is in the Strabane area, and their already advanced "species-crossing" activites involving sheep.
 
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If they evolve as life on Earth evolved (and they would) then they would be vicious potentially - programmed to dominate and unfathomably different and we empathise (but again i am extrapolating human calculations and sentiments onto the unknowable) with things that are more similar to us which they may do too. The only way to meet aliens is if we have the upper hand which isn't happening any time soon.

The fact that there seems to be no evidence of extraterrestrials on Earth and that the Earth planet has been green for a billion years would seem to suggest that statistically at least we should be alright in this little tiny section of history in which we live. So maybe deliberately advertising our existence to the stars is not such a good idea? In fact it is an awful idea.

When Hawking suggests we go into space and establish colonies in the solar system he is hoping that those colonies might develop independent politics - they might develop and grow the ethics humanity lacks here on Earth - eg wastefulness would be sinful there, abundance nonexistence, pollution a serious issue - humanity would learn in a whole way how to survive in a sustainable way if he had to survive on a colony on Mars. Provided those colonies were staffed by high IQ people and not say criminals. Partitioning humanity in different regions might be a solution to the problem 'our ways of thinking are going to destroy us'.
If extra terrestrials treat us as we treat inferior species on this planet then we are truly f*cked.

nothing but a commodity, an exploitable pool of tasty human rump steaks, sausages and soylent green.

Poetic Justice I'd say! :p
 


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