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Stormont Election 2016: Belfast West

theloner

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SF is to stand five former political prisoners in west Belfast. UDA linked DUP man, Frank McCoubrey, is also looking to disrupt SF's high five in the constituency but that'll depend if he can get the vote out on the Shankill.

Despite this, SF's main worry is Gerry Carroll, an affable young socialist from the area. While out canvassing on the doorsteps of the West, SF has been eager to tell the electorate that Carroll isn't sound on the national question.. (Yes, I know).

"The major issue is welfare cuts and the axing of 20,000 public sector jobs that Sinn Fein voted for at Stormont," he says. This area has the highest poverty rates in Northern Ireland. Sinn Fein claims to be left-wing yet it's implementing a rotten austerity programme.

"From domestics and porters in the Royal Victoria Hospital scraping a living on low wages, to those terrified they'll lose their Disability Living Allowance, I've met so many people who feel totally betrayed."

"Sinn Fein don't know how to deal with me," Carroll says. "They cope better with a challenge from unionists, who they can cast as traditional enemies, or from other republicans, who they dismiss as dissidents. But when the challenge is from a socialist, they struggle."

West Belfast: Gerry Carroll takes fight to Sinn Fein with the bookies

BELFAST WEST

Alex Attwood, SDLP

Conor Campbell, Workers Party

Gerry Carroll, People Before Profit Alliance

Jemima Higgins, Alliance Party

Gareth Martin, UUP,

Alex Maskey, Sinn Fein

Fra McCann, Sinn Fein

Jennifer McCann, Sinn Fein

Rosie McCorley, Sinn Fein

Frank McCoubrey, DUP

Ellen Murray, Green Party

Pat Sheehan, Sinn Fein
 


Marcella

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Carroll's time has come and it will be at the expense of SF or Attwood.

We can all look forward to 5 years passionate rhetoric from Gerry Carroll. The bigger challenge will come when he seeks re-election.
 

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Gerry Carroll's anti-capitalist, revolutionary Socialism doesn't sit too well with many SF Republicans, as they view him as a Marxist loose cannon. Good to see a young political idealist who hasn't abandoned his principles still putting himself forward.
 

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Gerry Carroll's anti-capitalist, revolutionary Socialism doesn't sit too well with many SF Republicans, as they view him as a Marxist loose cannon. Good to see a young political idealist who hasn't abandoned his principles still putting himself forward.
Are there any more PBP candidates in with a chance of getting elected, surely with SF supporting austerity in NI It would be ripe for PBP to be taking votes off SF in their heartlands. Although they may not win seats surely they could take votes off SF in poorer areas like Foyle and North Belfast.
 

RodShaft

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If he gets elected, his first problem will not be re-election. It will be designation.
 

Just Jack

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Can't see him taking Attwood's seat, who the hell is voting for the Stoops in West Belfast anyway?

It will be SF 4, Stoops 1, PBP 1.
 

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Don't rule out the DUP getting a seat - the Unionist vote is declining at a much slower rate than the Nationalist turnout. If they can get enough people to the stations they have the numbers to do it.
 

Irish-Rationalist

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Are there any more PBP candidates in with a chance of getting elected, surely with SF supporting austerity in NI It would be ripe for PBP to be taking votes off SF in their heartlands. Although they may not win seats surely they could take votes off SF in poorer areas like Foyle and North Belfast.
They have taken votes from SF. Eamonn McCann won 3,120 first preference votes (8% of total) in Foyle in 2011. In the 2011 West Belfast by-election Gerry Carroll got 1,751 votes (7.6%), coming in third place and ahead of both of the unionist candidates.

In the 2014 BCC election Carroll became the first PBP councilor elected in NI, winning 3rd place in the Black Mountain DEA, with 1,691 1st Preference votes.

However, they're still an extremely small party, winning just 0.3% of first pref votes in the 2014 local gvt elections, and realistically, are akin to a left-wing version of UKIP, in that they are merely in effect a protest movement.
 

devoutcapitalist

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Don't rule out the DUP getting a seat - the Unionist vote is declining at a much slower rate than the Nationalist turnout. If they can get enough people to the stations they have the numbers to do it.
Nah the Loyalist Lumpenproletariat on the Shankill can't be bothered voting preferring to whinge all the time.
 

devoutcapitalist

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They have taken votes from SF. Eamonn McCann won 3,120 first preference votes (8% of total) in Foyle in 2011. In the 2011 West Belfast by-election Gerry Carroll got 1,751 votes (7.6%), coming in third place and ahead of both of the unionist candidates.

In the 2014 BCC election Carroll became the first PBP councilor elected in NI, winning 3rd place in the Black Mountain DEA, with 1,691 1st Preference votes.

However, they're still an extremely small party, winning just 0.3% of first pref votes in the 2014 local gvt elections, and realistically, are akin to a left-wing version of UKIP, in that they are merely in effect a protest movement.
I think there are only running 3 candidates in West Belfast, North Belfast and Foyle. These would be mainly working class constituencies with high levels of poverty that would surely be ripe for a PBP breakthrough.

Do you think McCann can win a seat in Foyle?
 

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Is he Socialist worker type? I dont understand why they dont just stand under that banner if he is?
 

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I am hoping for 5 S.F. and 1 P.B.P. Gerry Carroll is a decent spud, far better than a Stoop. Oh by the way West Belfast is not poverty stricken, there are reasons for that statistical quirk ( demographics and boundary changes ). It used to be a very deprived area ( still is in places ) however things are going in the right direction now, it takes time to correct misrule.
 

bye bye mubarak

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Are there any more PBP candidates in with a chance of getting elected, surely with SF supporting austerity in NI It would be ripe for PBP to be taking votes off SF in their heartlands. Although they may not win seats surely they could take votes off SF in poorer areas like Foyle and North Belfast.
If they don't win seats but take votes off SF to allow political parties in that don't want same sex marriage, who don't want abortion for women in a FFA trap, or incest or rape. Come on the revolution. Oppress women and gays just to keep SF out. Arise Arise Arise....
 

bye bye mubarak

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Don't rule out the DUP getting a seat - the Unionist vote is declining at a much slower rate than the Nationalist turnout. If they can get enough people to the stations they have the numbers to do it.
They vote SDLP in numbers to try and keep SF out. They might go for Carroll this time and put Atwood's seat in danger.
 


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